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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Sure it can be, and may be, but doesn't mean it IS until proven. Basic legal principle, right there. That's not side stepping, son, that's the way it works in civilization.
    So, you have no interest in trying to keep your government accountable. Aslong as you can ignore it because they can't be charged, you're fine. After all, what is our word worth?

    I'm sorry but you can read the document and look at our actions. It is really no harder than that.

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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Sure it can be, and may be, but doesn't mean it IS until proven. Basic legal principle, right there. That's not side stepping, son, that's the way it works in civilization.
    "until proven" does not mean the same as "until proven in a court of law"

    It has been proven. You're side-stepping
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    So, you have no interest in trying to keep your government accountable. Aslong as you can ignore it because they can't be charged, you're fine. After all, what is our word worth?

    I'm sorry but you can read the document and look at our actions. It is really no harder than that.
    Sure I do....take it to a court of law. You can also read the UN resolutions that leave enough ambiguity to be interpreted to make it legal. It would take a court, not some nay-sayers, to determine what is actually illegal, under the UN resolutions and what is legal.
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    "until proven" does not mean the same as "until proven in a court of law"

    It has been proven. You're side-stepping
    Show that it has been proven in international court, or show the UN declaration that the invasion was illegal.
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    So, you have no interest in trying to keep your government accountable. Aslong as you can ignore it because they can't be charged, you're fine. After all, what is our word worth?

    I'm sorry but you can read the document and look at our actions. It is really no harder than that.
    Ain't that Mac sumpin' though. Like having a discussion with a grapefruit. Don't put nothin' in and crap still comes out. No-brainer comes to mind. I don't know why!

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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Ain't that Mac sumpin' though. Like having a discussion with a grapefruit. Don't put nothin' in and crap still comes out. No-brainer comes to mind. I don't know why!
    Now, that's productive.
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Show that it has been proven in international court, or show the UN declaration that the invasion was illegal.
    Once again, "proven" does not mean "proven in court"

    Even the wingnuts agree

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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Once again, "proven" does not mean "proven in court"

    Even the wingnuts agree

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...-t-resign.html
    Uhm, yes it does...if you are using it as proof. If it's not proven then it is conjecture, rumor, etc.
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Uhm, yes it does...if you are using it as proof. If it's not proven then it is conjecture, rumor, etc.
    Umm, no it doesn't

    But go on believing that OJ is innocent
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Umm, no it doesn't

    But go on believing that OJ is innocent
    Ah, the court of public opinion is good enough, huh? Guess you don't much mind innocent people being put to death, so long as enough people think they're guilty.
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