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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    They did start the fight, there had been resistance movements bent on overthrowing Iraq and the Ba'athists from nearly the time he gained power.
    We were buddies with the Ba'athists originally. Even Saddam was a friend for a bit of time. But they had nothing that we had when we started our war. And even then, it's not really our problem. Government gains its legitimacy through the consent of the governed. If you are not part of the governed, you have no rightful say.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    We were buddies with the Ba'athists originally. Even Saddam was a friend for a bit of time. But they had nothing that we had when we started our war. And even then, it's not really our problem. Government gains its legitimacy through the consent of the governed. If you are not part of the governed, you have no rightful say.
    So, in general, revolutionaries are without merit regardless of their motives?
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Before I opine, let me say in regards to Iraq, one POSITIVE thing that did come out of that was to show the globe that, without question, American troops , when called upon, WILL answer the call and do their job better than any fighting force in the history of mankind. I will defer to you guys to debate if the gains, whatever they are, are worthy of their sacrifices.

    We should NEVER devalue any sacrifice they have made for us due to ANY politics that happen to call them up. The President calls, they answer. Case closed. Therefore, I would like to make clear that my opinion on the policies and/or politics that called upon their sacrifices to begin with, in no way reflects my view to our soldier heroes.

    I said it when we went in and I will say it now that we've pulled out. It mattered not what we did there, did or did not accomplish or how long we were to stay there. The Iraqi's have a long overdue civil war they have yet to hammer out. All we did was postpone the inevitable with our costly presence.

    Iraq is about to implode.

    Maybe we should have saved the money and saved the lives instead.
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    So, in general, revolutionaries are without merit regardless of their motives?
    who exactly are these revolutionaries you speak of in iraq
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    So, in general, revolutionaries are without merit regardless of their motives?
    "Outside" revolutionaries are oft without merit.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    was iraq worth it,not really,was taking out their leader,yes.if people only knew the real reason we went there,it had to do with oil,but not with their oil supply.if anyone wants to have fun you can play around in google,or read a history book thats not a school issue text book.better yet google the history of ww1 and maybe everyone will see why its practically stripped out of history.then look to ending the gold standard the oil crisis and oil being traded in us dollars,all of those subjects tie hand in hand,though you would have to do quite a bit of research the answer is clear to anyone who really looks for it.

    also just to note that everyone who made bush's axis of evil was attempting to do the same thing saddam was,and no it wasnt wmd's,but i dont want to spoil the ending

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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Wrong, they ahd to have the sercurity council OK to invade.
    A) no you don't
    B) to the extent that you would want it, they did.

    Frankly, as noted above, it is often you who are wrong. But by all means present information. I'm sure you have an NRO article that completely misrepresents the truth to present.
    wow. an ad hominem and a preemptive ad sourcinem in lieu of actual facts or logic. Boo, you are outdoing yourself.

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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    my friends the simple answer to this question is, did your gas prices go down a few cents? then yes it was worth it! if it went up then it was not worth it! nevermind deaths and casualities and blah blah blah

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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    43% (as I recall, a plurality) of troops polled in 2011 said retrospectively we should have invaded Iraq.

    71% approve of pulling out of Iraq now, though that might change if the commanders turn out to be correct (as they likely will) about that 20K RBE.

    meanwhile, only 24% support the intervention in Libya, and only 39% support the President's plan to begin withdrawing troops from Afghanistan.

    ...“People wonder if we really have the commitment to follow this through,” said retired Army Command Sgt. Maj. Michael Hall, who was the top enlisted service member for the NATO mission in Kabul in 2009 and 2010. “I think everybody knows that we can be successful over there. But it’s going to take time and presence and commitment, and I think folks are worried that we go over there, we sacrifice our families and we work hard — but are we going to follow through? Or is this all going be for naught?”...
    and that is what we are waiting to find out in Iraq. Did we decide to get out too fast, and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory?

    The President's overall approval rating among members of the military is 25%.

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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    What analysis are you talking about? I didn't compare the two wars, I challenged Boo's "the end doesn't justify the means" bs comment.

    However, we cannot depose dictators without bombs when they are kissing a veto wielding, UN members ass. That would be France, btw.

    Further, it was not longer than WWII when you add the 60 plus years of "occupation" of Germany and Japan.
    60+ years? That would mean that we occupied Germany and Iraq in the 21st century (although the prolonged occupation forces me to concede there.)

    The war itself was illegal under international law. Let's not call following UN charters "kissing ass."
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