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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by a777pilot View Post
    What did you present? I must have missed it. Sorry. Do try again. Type slow. I don't read too fast.
    There are none so blind as he who will not see.

    That's inaccurate as well. There was no double secret cone of silence intel. We know that Saddam likely had some left over wmds, that his infastructure was such that he could not maintain such weapons. We also had no intel that was credible that he was growing and gathering. Much has been written on this by all kinds of sources.

    No, as for Bush the father, he was ready to help the kurds, but Chalibi (you might remember him and his heros in error) betrayed us to Iran, so we backed off and let kurds suffer for it. Before you can successfully re-write history, it helps if you know it.
    I hope this helps.

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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    There are none so blind as he who will not see.



    I hope this helps.
    Thanks but it does not help at all.
    I came into this world fighting, screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I have no problem going out the same way.

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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by a777pilot View Post
    Thanks but it does not help at all.
    Well, we have no intel saying Saddam was growing and gathering. There's the Chalibi stuff you could address. Either one would be a fine place to start.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Dofferent situation. No one came in and brought us independence. We took it, decided for ourselves. That makes a difference, and changes the means. So try again.
    Actually, we declared our independence, and then with the help of a superpower, overthrew a dictator. The only difference is that there was no dramatic declaration of independence from what was seen as a foreign dictator. In the case of Iraq, there was thirty years of armed revolt against a domestic dictator. That's not much of a difference. The only real difference, it would seem, is how narrowly it's perceived by you.
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by a777pilot View Post
    LOL!

    I wonder what you were watching and what you were smoking at the time.
    A hyper-liberal network that makes MSNBC look like Limbaugh.

    And much of the content was documentaries from the BBC and other internationally repected sources.

    The sheer weight of information on this and other subjects not included in the American political discourse was frankly shocking.

    American MSM is NOT telling us the whole story on much of anything.
    Anyone wondering what I'm talking about start here:
    The Psychology of Persuasion

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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by a777pilot View Post
    That's just made up. Those that fought in Iraq know what they did and I have yet to find one that has told me they are sorry they participated in it.

    Our national debt ($15 trillion) is not because of Iraq.
    A trillion of our debt is due to Iraq and that doesn't include the trillion that will be needed to replace the munitions and destroyed equipment and care for the ten's of thousands of maimed and injured veterans for the rest of their lives.

    And no, it is not made up that a majority of the Veterans of the Iraq war don't think it was worth it:

    "A Pew Research Center poll released Wednesday says 2 in 3 post-9/11 veterans think the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are not worth the costs."

    Vets Say Wars Not Worth It
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Actually, we declared our independence, and then with the help of a superpower, overthrew a dictator. The only difference is that there was no dramatic declaration of independence from what was seen as a foreign dictator. In the case of Iraq, there was thirty years of armed revolt against a domestic dictator. That's not much of a difference. The only real difference, it would seem, is how narrowly it's perceived by you.
    Help we asked for, and limited help. Germany did not invade and free us.

    So there is a lot of difference. A lot of difference.

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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Well, we have no intel saying Saddam was growing and gathering. There's the Chalibi stuff you could address. Either one would be a fine place to start.
    I have no idea what "growing and gathering" might mean. Chalibi was a fool and at times a useful fool.

    You have no idea how "intelligence" is used you do?
    I came into this world fighting, screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I have no problem going out the same way.

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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by a777pilot View Post
    I have no idea what "growing and gathering" might mean. Chalibi was a fool and at times a useful fool.

    You have no idea how "intelligence" is used you do?
    Used by Iran to get us to invade. I know.

    And yes, we all do. There is plenty written on it, plenty released. It is not a secret.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    A trillion of our debt is due to Iraq and that doesn't include the trillion that will be needed to replace the munitions and destroyed equipment and care for the ten's of thousands of maimed and injured veterans for the rest of their lives.

    And no, it is not made up that a majority of the Veterans of the Iraq war don't think it was worth it:

    "A Pew Research Center poll released Wednesday says 2 in 3 post-9/11 veterans think the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are not worth the costs."

    Vets Say Wars Not Worth It
    Pew, NBC, CNN.....Yup, no bias there.
    I came into this world fighting, screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I have no problem going out the same way.

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