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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by a777pilot View Post
    I did ask what the question was. You gave a partial answer. So don't blame me if I get it messed up.

    So, are you asking me what we, the USA, knew before the 2003 invasion of Iraq?

    That's easy. I have no idea. You don't either. I still opine that the real reason for the invasion of Iraq was Iran.

    Bush(43) made lots of errors in his war effort.

    The first and most important was the very same error LBJ made in the 1960's in VN. He, Bush (43), tried to have guns and butter at the same time. It has never worked. Pick one or the other.
    That's inaccurate as well. There was no double secret cone of silence intel. We know that Saddam likely had some left over wmds, that his infastructure was such that he could not maintain such weapons. We also had no intel that was credible that he was growing and gathering. Much has been written on this by all kinds of sources.

    No, as for Bush the father, he was ready to help the kurds, but Chalibi (you might remember him and his heros in error) betrayed us to Iran, so we backed off and let kurds suffer for it. Before you can successfully re-write history, it helps if you know it.

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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    I know history. Democrats, or more accurately, Liberals don't. They just make it up nas they go along.
    I came into this world fighting, screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I have no problem going out the same way.

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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by a777pilot View Post
    I know history. Democrats, or more accurately, Liberal don't. They just make it up nas they go along.
    Well, that sure showed me.

    All I can say is I presented something and you chose to go with "you suck so there." Do you really think that works?

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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Well, that sure showed me.

    All I can say is I presented something and you chose to go with "you suck so there." Do you really think that works?
    What did you present? I must have missed it. Sorry. Do try again. Type slow. I don't read too fast.
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    No, I agree with the majority of Veterans who fought the war, and the majority of Americans that paid for it through taxes and National debt, it was not worth it.
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    That's inaccurate as well. There was no double secret cone of silence intel. We know that Saddam likely had some left over wmds, that his infastructure was such that he could not maintain such weapons. We also had no intel that was credible that he was growing and gathering. Much has been written on this by all kinds of sources.
    Are you trying to say Bush lied? I find that some what tedious. You have no idea what the US or many other countries had in the way of intelligence reports and what if anything they actually believed.
    I came into this world fighting, screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I have no problem going out the same way.

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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Frolicking Dinosaurs View Post
    Ockham, I suggest you do some reading of the minutes of UN discussion prior to the vote not to sanction the Iraqi invasion. The facts about why The UN did not sanction this invasion are starkly different from what the US media and the GWB administration said about the subject.

    UN Webcast Archives
    I watched the whole runup to the war on tv in our glass blowing studio.

    We had Free Speech TV on Dish Network.

    There was a HUGE amount of information countering the "messaging" we were getting from the govt and the US media. Including docume taries on Husseins "containment" and how the inspection process actually worked.

    Turns out they were right, for the most part.

    The idea that the "world" agreed on the "intel" is ridiculous.
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    No, I agree with the majority of Veterans who fought the war, and the majority of Americans that paid for it through taxes and National debt, it was not worth it.
    That's just made up. Those that fought in Iraq know what they did and I have yet to find one that has told me they are sorry they participated in it.

    Our national debt ($15 trillion) is not because of Iraq.
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    The idea that the "world" agreed on the "intel" is ridiculous.
    LOL!

    I wonder what you were watching and what you were smoking at the time.
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by a777pilot View Post
    Are you trying to say Bush lied? I find that some what tedious. You have no idea what the US or many other countries had in the way of intelligence reports and what if anything they actually believed.
    Tedious or not, it is the truth. He lied. No one outside of the doubted intel said Saddam was growing and gathering. That was Bush and Bush alone. And it was a lie.

    Again, there is no double secret cone of silence intel. You're just grasping at astraws because it is all you have.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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