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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    I agree with you that they wouldn't want us to break agreements. Thats the point, we shouldn't be in the agreement to begin with. I believe you and I have debated, at length, the reasons we went into Iraq and Afghanistan so I will save us the merry go round we got into last time.
    Still, we did sign the agreements. Either our word means something or it doesn't. BTW, have you read just war theory?

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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    The UN is a worthless organization and has no relevance to anything.

    Why are we even it in?
    I came into this world fighting, screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I have no problem going out the same way.

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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by a777pilot View Post
    The UN is a worthless organization and has no relevance to anything.

    Why are we even it in?
    It is useless because it's members are useless. No one would ever give it the power to actually do anything. Still, we signed the agreement and had no real justification for invading another country that was not an imminent threat.

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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by a777pilot View Post
    The UN is a worthless organization and has no relevance to anything.

    Why are we even it in?
    The only answer I can find is that without the UN, there would be a vacuum and as such, there would be a fragmented alliances made, some with the likes of Chavez and Venezuela and Akmadinijad in Iran, others with new organizations and then we get into the regional wars, world wars, etc., again. The entire reason the UN exists, as it was with it's predecessor organization was to provide a forum for countries who do not have a voice regionally, such that the countries with the most power and the voting majority can take action before another escalation takes place which kills millions. For it's modern purpose, yes it's mostly useless, corrupt, and ineffectual political posturing B.S. The only valid function it still has is as an emergency vent for regional or world conflicts - and even then it's value is more to stop a contagion spread and not as a "fix" for what's broken.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    The Iraqi war should have never been undertaken so my answer would have to be a resounding NO. Most of the world knew that Saddam's WMD claims were bogus and this lead to the counties that make up the UN not sanctioning the invasion.

    That said, let me make one thing crystal clear: No US soldier ever dies in vain. I have the utmost respect for the men and women who make up the armed forces and feel it my duty to try to provide them with competent commanders-in-chief.
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Frolicking Dinosaurs View Post
    Most of the world knew that Saddam's WMD claims were bogus and this lead to the counties that make up the UN not sanctioning the invasion.
    That's not accurate... at the time we did not know what he had nor did other "most other countries" leading up to the 2003 invasion. Please don't attempt the whole re-write history by continuing to propagate B.S.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Frolicking Dinosaurs View Post
    The Iraqi war should have never been undertaken so my answer would have to be a resounding NO. Most of the world knew that Saddam's WMD claims were bogus and this lead to the counties that make up the UN not sanctioning the invasion.

    That said, let me make one thing crystal clear: No US soldier ever dies in vain. I have the utmost respect for the men and women who make up the armed forces and feel it my duty to try to provide them with competent commanders-in-chief.
    BS, to your first part.

    Amen, to your second part.
    I came into this world fighting, screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I have no problem going out the same way.

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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    That's not accurate... at the time we did not know what he had nor did other "most other countries" leading up to the 2003 invasion. Please don't attempt the whole re-write history by continuing to propagate B.S.
    We knew he had some left over wmds that he could not maintain. We had no intel that was credible that he was growing and gathering. Accepting the misinformation as you have is not history. And telling the truth is not re-writing history.

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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Still, we did sign the agreements. Either our word means something or it doesn't. BTW, have you read just war theory?
    I know, we did sign the agreement. Does that mean we have to honor it forever no matter what? When does logic take over and we figure out we have to act on our own. The last time the UN acted was Libya and they were fumbling that until guess who came in.
    I just Google'd "Just War Theory". Looks like an interesting read. I will tackle that soon. I'm reading Bing West's "The Wrong War" right now. He was in Sangin, Afghansitan while I was there. Great author who doesn't pull punches. You should try it out. After that, I have John Adams biography and then "Killing Lincoln" by O'Reilly lined up. Kinda "booked" as far as books go. Thanks for the recommendation though.
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    We knew he had some left over wmds that he could not maintain. We had no intel that was credible that he was growing and gathering. Accepting the misinformation as you have is not history. And telling the truth is not re-writing history.
    I'm being very specific regarding the statement made which said "Most of the world knew that Saddam's WMD claims were bogus", which is as I stated (and I'm being nice here) in accurate. That is not the truth, therefore it is attempting to propagate misinformation. It's very well documented.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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