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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, the ends don't justify the means. Not that making Iraq heaven was our goal to start with.
    Was our war for independence "worth it"?
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Was our war for independence "worth it"?
    excellent question ... but only if you can identify what other nation fought for and won it for us
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    excellent question ... but only if you can identify what other nation fought for and won it for us
    I assume you're talking about France, but may be talking about the Native American nations...I hope the latter, but I doubt it. Either way, your analysis is way off.
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    The fact that we signed a UN charter is a whole other can of beans that should be opened in its own thread. We need to look back at what the founders said about things such as that and correct ourselves.
    They, in fact, said "Stay out of European politics."
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I assume you're talking about France, but may be talking about the Native American nations...I hope the latter, but I doubt it. Either way, your analysis is way off.
    I think your analysis is off. There wasn't already a war for independence in Iraq. We basically decided that Iraq needed liberation (despite the fact that we supported Saddam at the beginning.)

    I voted no. It was longer than WWII and did nothing but hurt American interests. We can depose dictators without bombs. Saddam was a terrible person and needed to go, but we could have waited for a movement like what happened in Libya and funnel our support to rebels. Saddam's regime would have disappeared eventually.
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Perhaps it would have been if we had done it right. We shall see how it all turns out, but right now I am guessing no. Had it been done right, the answer would be unequivically yes.
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    I think your analysis is off. There wasn't already a war for independence in Iraq. We basically decided that Iraq needed liberation (despite the fact that we supported Saddam at the beginning.)

    I voted no. It was longer than WWII and did nothing but hurt American interests. We can depose dictators without bombs. Saddam was a terrible person and needed to go, but we could have waited for a movement like what happened in Libya and funnel our support to rebels. Saddam's regime would have disappeared eventually.
    What analysis are you talking about? I didn't compare the two wars, I challenged Boo's "the end doesn't justify the means" bs comment.

    However, we cannot depose dictators without bombs when they are kissing a veto wielding, UN members ass. That would be France, btw.

    Further, it was not longer than WWII when you add the 60 plus years of "occupation" of Germany and Japan.
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Got rid of Saddam. We don't have to worry about him invading his neighbors every few years.
    If he started a war with Iran, it wouldn't have been our problem. If anything, it would have distracted Iran's nuclear ambitions. We ****ed ourselves and Iran is probably going to get a nuke in the end.

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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Right, that's why he massed Republican Gaurd units on the Kuwaiti border in 1994. Not to mention his persicussion of the Kerds and the Shia.
    And if he did start genocide and mass murdering his own, we could have responded like Obama reacted to the situation in Libya. But we shouldn't start wars to prevent possible genocide in the future.

    Don't forget invading Iraq was a preemptive strike. Iraq was simply argued to be a threat. Yeah, Iraq did some ****ed up things... nobody enjoyed hearing Bush screaming and stomping his feet that war must be declared because of a gruesome history of genocide and torture. Nobody was defending a right to commit genocide when we were opposing the invasion of Iraq. We just never thought the war made sense and the costs were too high. The only reason much of the public liked the idea of it, was because they public didn't like Saddam Hussein and because of our history. It was a war based on emotional propaganda. There were too few questions asked and too little thinking about the consequences.

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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    78 people voted yes, it was worth it. I have been reading the thread and haven't seen a single argument presented as to how America is better off as a result of the war. Did I miss something here?

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