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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Is it our job to be the policemen of the world?
    Yes. We're the only superpower and we have invisible planes. It is our responsibility to liberate the oppressed.

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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Yes. We're the only superpower and we have invisible planes. It is our responsibility to liberate the oppressed.
    I do so appreciate your sense of humor. Perhaps we should give China our invisible planes and let THEM send THEIR kids to die for our neocon aspiritions. I mean, we're sending them most of our work already. Why not? LOL!

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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Yes. We're the only superpower and we have invisible planes. It is our responsibility to liberate the oppressed.
    bull****. its not our responsibility to defend anyone but ourselves.

    if we liberate someone, its cause we choose to, not cause we have to.

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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Yes. We're the only superpower and we have invisible planes. It is our responsibility to liberate the oppressed.
    Then why not invade Saudi Arabia, they oppress their people (oh yea we love them they give us oil)
    Why not invade 3/4 of Africa? (Oh yea little resources there and they give us what they want from there)

    You do realize we support sooo many oppressive government throughout history and currently do. Your whole "its our responsibility to liberate the oppressed" is just a load of ****.


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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Yes. We're the only superpower and we have invisible planes. It is our responsibility to liberate the oppressed.
    We don't have invisible planes...
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Absolutely not, it was a complete waste of time, money and lives. It did nothing whatsoever to stop terrorism, it probably made things worse.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    We don't have invisible planes...
    What? TV wouldn't lie!

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    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Not. Where do you get your history?



    I think apdst has a CIB, from Iraq? I was a para, I've got my national defense ribbon (Gulf 1). I support liberation, even at terrible costs. We cannot allow people to live under unthinkable tyranny. World freedom before world peace; it's time we get it done.
    We can't really atop it, and honestly, don't really try to. We allow the illusion as much as we can, but have no problem with Iraq being ruled by a tyrant, as long as he is our tyrannt. Sadly.

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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Regardless, we're talking about a leader of a nation that had committed genocide. We should have done more during, but removing him after was still worthwhile.
    Not really. As I have said, we merely added injury to injury. Little more.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Was the War in Iraq worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    And that was wrong. I was replying to a "it didn't affect us, why would we care?" comment.
    Going in that late made us seem even more uncaring as we allowed to have the most harm possible to the people, allowing all those deaths in the genocide, then the suffering from the santions, followed by the suffering of war. We seem like real bastards for that. And I doubt anyone really believes our actions were motivated by care for the Iraqis. We wouldn't have brought them war that far down the road if we really cared.

    So, I saying you can't present Iraq as a we care effort. We didn't and don't. Not our government. Not a bit.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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