View Poll Results: Do white supremacist web sites serve an important purpose?

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  • No, it would be better if none existed.

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  • Yes, at least they prove that racism is alive and well so that we don't forget

    4 10.00%
  • They're important for free speech, even if that speech is ugly

    28 70.00%
  • I agree with the white supremacists and am therefore glad that the sites are there

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    Re: Do white supremacist web sites serve an important purpose?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    I only concluded that racism still exists. I didn't say the majority of the country agreed with those sites.
    Of course it exists: I didn't think one would need such websites to prove that.

    I think the fact that you felt necessary to read up to confirm that it exists means it's becoming less common - all one needs to do is be at the right place at the right time to hear or see it in action.

    And thus: getting rid of such websites wouldn't make it go away.
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    Re: Do white supremacist web sites serve an important purpose?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    I only concluded that racism still exists. I didn't say the majority of the country agreed with those sites.
    Of course racism still exists, but it isn't limited to white supremacist websites, there are plenty of black and hispanic racists out there too.
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    Re: Do white supremacist web sites serve an important purpose?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    They allow white supremacists to organize. This is bad.
    Why is it any worse than any other group?
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    Re: Do white supremacist web sites serve an important purpose?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    To me, they serve three purposes:

    1) They sequester all the idiots in one basket so they jerk each other off and leave the rest of us alone.
    2) They show the rest of us an excellent example of what not to become.
    3) A reminder that there are still ignorant people around.
    If only church websites did the same thing.
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    Re: Do white supremacist web sites serve an important purpose?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Of course racism still exists, but it isn't limited to white supremacist websites, there are plenty of black and hispanic racists out there too.
    I agree. I've heard some people claim that racism is a white phenomenon, but I think that claim in itself is racist. Japanese soldiers were certainly racist against Koreans and Chinese during World War II. The were also racist against Caucasian and black Americans. I'm not sure how the reacted to Japanese Americans. Maybe they were baffled by their existence.

    I've met Hispanics who were extremely bigoted toward Jews. I've never met a black racist, but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

    I am troubled that so many people voted that they agreed with the white supremacist web sites. I expected maybe one or two votes for them, but definitely not this many. So far none of them have spoken up in this thread, or perhaps they did, but were so inflammatory that they got deleted.

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    Re: Do white supremacist web sites serve an important purpose?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    I agree. I've heard some people claim that racism is a white phenomenon, but I think that claim in itself is racist. Japanese soldiers were certainly racist against Koreans and Chinese during World War II. The were also racist against Caucasian and black Americans. I'm not sure how the reacted to Japanese Americans. Maybe they were baffled by their existence.

    I've met Hispanics who were extremely bigoted toward Jews. I've never met a black racist, but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

    I am troubled that so many people voted that they agreed with the white supremacist web sites. I expected maybe one or two votes for them, but definitely not this many. So far none of them have spoken up in this thread, or perhaps they did, but were so inflammatory that they got deleted.
    Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are black racists. There are tons of them, people who consider people based on skin color.

    And while I have no idea if it's true of the people who voted that way, I can look at that fourth option and see it as "I agree these people have a right to free speech". After all, it doesn't say "I am a white supremacist."
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    Re: Do white supremacist web sites serve an important purpose?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are black racists. There are tons of them, people who consider people based on skin color.

    And while I have no idea if it's true of the people who voted that way, I can look at that fourth option and see it as "I agree these people have a right to free speech". After all, it doesn't say "I am a white supremacist."
    It does say, "I agree with the white supremacists." The last option was meant as an admission that someone supports white supremacy. If someone voted for that option thinking it meant only that they had free speech rights, he misinterpreted it.

    I think Jesse Jackson has made some bad choices, but I don't see him as a racist. A racist is someone who regards other races as inferior. I don't think he does that. I haven't followed Al Sharpton all that much.

    I did meet a Hispanic guy online who said that all of North America belongs to Mexico and that "all whites should go back to Europe and all blacks should go back to Africa." That was extremely racist.

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    Re: Do white supremacist web sites serve an important purpose?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are black racists. There are tons of them, people who consider people based on skin color.

    And while I have no idea if it's true of the people who voted that way, I can look at that fourth option and see it as "I agree these people have a right to free speech". After all, it doesn't say "I am a white supremacist."
    Though it doesn't use those actual words, the phrase "I agree with the white supremacists ... " suggests an unhealthy affinity. The free speech option is in the preceding question.
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    Re: Do white supremacist web sites serve an important purpose?

    I actually agree with a lot of the stuff white supremacists have to say. I just don't give a damn about white people.

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    Re: Do white supremacist web sites serve an important purpose?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are black racists. There are tons of them, people who consider people based on skin color....
    they are not today's real problem. today's real problem are those that irrationally & illogically hate Muslim-Americans.

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