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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    So let's explore what you BELIEVE in YOUR definitions.

    You BELIEVE a mother may "MURDER" (your word) her own child to save her own life. So if facing starvation a mother could murder her own child to eat her child to save her life, to kill a child if the mother needs a teenage child's heart for a transplant and for a mother to use her own child as a human shield against bullets also to try to save her own life.

    Your "morals" and "belief" as a pro-lifer is that abortion is "MURDER" same as murdering a born child - but that a mother may "murder" her child to save her own life - thus whether a 1 day old zygote or 17 year old daughter as you equate them as IDENTICAL. HOW DISGUSTING THAT YOU THINK A MOTHER COULD MURDER HER TEENAGE CHILD FOR SELF PRESERVATION!!!
    Nearly all other people believe that a parent should give up his/her life to save his/her children. I do. So We are FAR more PRO-CHILD than you are BY YOUR OWN DEFINITIONS.
    Your post is ludicrous, hyperbolic, and ridiculous.

    Congrats. You win.

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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Well, my whole family and my husband's whole family are pro-life, and none of them have any issues with the morning after pill (not the immediate family anyway). The only ones who might would be my great-aunts who are Catholic and consider contraceptives and sex-without-the-intent-of-getting-pregnant wrong. To the rest of the family, MAPs are basically just "oops" contraceptives, not abortion pills.
    Yes, but that is because your family is misunderstanding them. Do they no there is at least equal academic opinion and evidence they can cause abortion?
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I agree that there is that position at it's core... I just don't understand why. But just like being a Republican or Democrat not all the core values are accepted or adhered to by all or even most people within that party. I have read that 20-25% of the people think that life begins at conception but also that 55-60% of pregnancies end in miscarriage. Why would people take a religious stance that life begins at conception (personhood, personality or consciousness) from a I assume god when the same god turns around and essentially sets up a system that will kill half of all humans ever concieved within a few months?
    No offense Bodhi but you are trying to critique the position itself, which is different from whether it should imply all abortion is murder, logically. One reason they'd take such a stance is that the fetus is a new human being, this is the time when a new being is formed, no other time between conception and death is when a new being, as opposed to new trait like consciousness, can be seen to be formed. Now from the pro-life perspective consciousness is just that a trait, but the being is one united individual human nature and person of which consciousness is just a property that develops, albeit an important one. Therefore it makes perfect sense to consider full humanity to begin at conception. Otherwise you end up with dualistic understandings where the body and soul or consciousness are less one being in our corporeal level of existence, than the body a place which the soul enters as an after thought.
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    1.) NO that was not the discussion, the discussion that YOU quoted my post on was about the FACT that abortion is not murder, nice try
    It's not legally murder, but it might be in the moral sense, i.e. should be made murder legally. Stop confusing the two senses of the word.

    2.) when I get home maybe I will
    Either do it, or withdraw your comment.

    3.) I am in now way calling them stupid or dumb because i disagree or they are simply wrong LOL nice appeal to emotion but you are being dishonest, they would be stupid or dumb IF they ignore the FACTS and the fact is abortion is not murder.
    You act and talk like a child. Never mind, I'm not interested.
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    You are wasting your time Misterman.
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    It's not legally murder, but it might be in the moral sense, i.e. should be made murder legally. Stop confusing the two senses of the word.



    Either do it, or withdraw your comment.



    You act and talk like a child. Never mind, I'm not interested.
    1.) there is only one sense of the word its DEFINITION lol anything else is simply MADE UP
    fact: abortion is not MURDER

    2.) ill get to it because I already have MY answer, I ask the question remember lol

    3.) nope not at all, you just tried to twist my words around and failed. Now you are deflecting in attempt to save face, no problem by me, fact remains abortion is not murder.
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    You are wasting your time Misterman.
    agreed its always a waste of time to argue against facts
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    You are wasting your time Misterman.
    I have just figured that out and will waste no more. Thanks.
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    I have just figured that out and will waste no more. Thanks.
    Good move, facts cant be changed by fantasy.
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    I refuse to read 490+ posts...

    Yes.



    I dislike the abortion issue because I agree with/see the point in arguments on both sides, in some cases arguments which are directly opposed to each other. Which leaves me torn, to say the least…
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