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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Would you not agree that there is a pro-life philosophy that is says life and personhood begins at conception? Don't you agree this is probably the most popular and most united pro-life position? It is certainly the one of Catholics and most evangelicals. This is the position I mean. I do not think it is too far off track to refer to this as the usual' pro-life position.
    No, the statistic of who agrees with in the USA that is 20%.

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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Would you not agree that there is a pro-life philosophy that is says life and personhood begins at conception? Don't you agree this is probably the most popular and most united pro-life position? It is certainly the one of Catholics and most evangelicals. This is the position I mean. I do not think it is too far off track to refer to this as the usual' pro-life position.
    I agree that there is that position at it's core... I just don't understand why. But just like being a Republican or Democrat not all the core values are accepted or adhered to by all or even most people within that party. I have read that 20-25% of the people think that life begins at conception but also that 55-60% of pregnancies end in miscarriage. Why would people take a religious stance that life begins at conception (personhood, personality or consciousness) from a I assume god when the same god turns around and essentially sets up a system that will kill half of all humans ever concieved within a few months?
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    this is what people typically do when they cant debate logically or back up their false claims, they try to deflect and insult and it always ends up in a failure.

    now lets look back
    can you prove

    1.) abortion is murder
    2.) the view that abortion is murder is the USUAL view of pro-lifers

    so far you have offered ZERO evidence of either even though you have been asked repeatedly.
    Im waiting can you defend and prove any of this or are you just interested in failed attacks?
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    can you prove

    1.) abortion is murder
    2.) the view that abortion is murder is the USUAL view of pro-lifers
    The first isn't a matter of proof. It involves value judgments.

    The second is pretty obviously true and shouldn't require proof.
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    The first isn't a matter of proof. It involves value judgments.

    The second is pretty obviously true and shouldn't require proof.
    Well, the first can be discussed within the parameters of the law as it pertains to a person. You can't murder a flew or a corpse.

    The second, as far as I can tell, is NOT the usual view of pro-lifers... just the more extreme ones.
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Well, the first can be discussed within the parameters of the law as it pertains to a person. You can't murder a flew or a corpse.
    And, as always, it turns on when a person becomes a person...

    The second, as far as I can tell, is NOT the usual view of pro-lifers... just the more extreme ones.
    Really? How do you get that? If most pro-lifers don't think abortion is murder, what do they base their opposition to abortion on, in your view?
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    ]And, as always, it turns on when a person becomes a person...
    Once the term is defined then, I guess.

    Really? How do you get that? If most pro-lifers don't think abortion is murder, what do they base their opposition to abortion on, in your view?
    In my view... that it is killing a developing human that has significant value... but is not murder due to development levels.
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    In my view... that it is killing a developing human that has significant value... but is not murder due to development levels.
    You got some evidence for that?
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Here, let me help you:

    Public Opinion About Abortion -- An In-Depth Review

    Not much room for those who oppose abortion but don't say they think it's murder.
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    As a pro-lifer in terms of abortion, it's murder UNLESS it is either the life of the woman or the life of the unborn in the balance. I will remain consistent on this.

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