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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I am on vacation now. I moved to New Zealand 5 years back with my little daughters. Back for Christmas, family and Disneyland.

    oooh I had no idea
    how is New Zealand? Like it there? Im guessing yes since you moved there lol
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I don't argue with that... even though I have nothing but love for Objective J.

    I understand your point, though the cells at conception form a zygote and not a fetus as minor as that point might seem. I think that the issue is that a fetus contains the requisite components of being a person. A zygote doesn't even come close and the best that can be argued, as I have, is that the zygote might contain a soul or consciousness that we cannot measure. Minus that and the zygote is just a few random cells. I understand what it might become... but we know that a woman is a woman with consciousness and a fully developed independent body and a zygote is a couple of cells that have a great chance of simply being purged from the system during the next female cycle of in a miscarriage.

    I can see that some might call killing a zygote murder, but that only makes sense from a religious or moral perspective that probably has no logical or observable factors assigned to it.
    Wessexman... you said that I was a somewhat sensible person and may give you a proper answer but I think that you might have missed this response to you.
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    oooh I had no idea
    how is New Zealand? Like it there? Im guessing yes since you moved there lol
    Love it. Love the USA too... but I like adventure. After 30+ years here I was ready to live overseas. We live on the North Island a few hours south of Auckland in the rural coast of Taranaki. Great surf (I am a surfer/beach guy at heart), live a few meters from the beach and lots of green forest. Amazing. Thanks for asking...
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Love it. Love the USA too... but I like adventure. After 30+ years here I was ready to live overseas. We live on the North Island a few hours south of Auckland in the rural coast of Taranaki. Great surf (I am a surfer/beach guy at heart), live a few meters from the beach and lots of green forest. Amazing. Thanks for asking...
    no problem, Never been but I have heard many good things about it there. maybe one day ill be lucky enough to visit that place.

    Hows the gun laws there and right to defend yourself? LOL
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    no problem, Never been but I have heard many good things about it there. maybe one day ill be lucky enough to visit that place.

    Hows the gun laws there and right to defend yourself? LOL
    There are very few guns... even the toughest of the tough gang bangers don't have many guns, much less use them. They use bats and machetes, if anything and that is against each other. There are also almost no gangs in New Zealand... not like the USA. I am not sure that there are any anywhere close to where I live. Guns are legal but mostly for hunting. I am not sure about carry permits and all that. Nobody I know has a gun except a few rifles for hunting boar. Who the hell wants to invade us down here anyway? Who even could? Also, the government here is very liberal compared to the USA and people here are just plain nice. It is like small town America EVERYWHERE... even in the cities.
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    I think Wessex fell asleep at the key board and I am tired and going to log of and catch some Z's. Take it easy man...
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    There are very few guns... even the toughest of the tough gang bangers don't have many guns, much less use them. They use bats and machetes, if anything and that is against each other. There are also almost no gangs in New Zealand... not like the USA. I am not sure that there are any anywhere close to where I live. Guns are legal but mostly for hunting. I am not sure about carry permits and all that. Nobody I know has a gun except a few rifles for hunting boar. Who the hell wants to invade us down here anyway? Who even could? Also, the government here is very liberal compared to the USA and people here are just plain nice. It is like small town America EVERYWHERE... even in the cities.
    nice!
    I have to say my area isnt so much "small town" im only 25 mins from the heart of Pittsburgh but it is nice hear compared to in Pittsburgh and many other places.

    When I have friends that move here or friend that visit they even notice it, weird how things change like that geo wise.

    I do admit I was in an area of Chicago I REALLY liked it, surprisingly everyone was nice there too

    Down south, Deluth, Gainsville and SC not so much, nice on the surface only. That was MY experience anyway, and sense of humor is different too

    oh well, again maybe ill get out there some day. Glad you like it.
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I think Wessex fell asleep at the key board and I am tired and going to log of and catch some Z's. Take it easy man...
    he sounds like he is asleep at the wheel

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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Wessexman... you said that I was a somewhat sensible person and may give you a proper answer but I think that you might have missed this response to you.
    Sorry Bodhi but that response is simply questioning the entire pro-life philosophy, it is a pro-choice position, it doesn't really answer the questions about the logic and consistency of the pro-life philosophy.
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post


    I am not trying to be rude in the slightest... seriously, but you keep talking about pro-lifers as if there is a uniformed code of thinking and I don't see that at all. I am actually pro-life in that I want all babies that are viable and that were not conceived of rape to be carried to term (for the most part) but I am also realistic in that women have their bodies and what happens to them and inside them is and should be under their control and nobody else's. I know quite a few people of like mind. Not all "pro-lifers" walk or talk the same talk... not at all.
    Would you not agree that there is a pro-life philosophy that is says life and personhood begins at conception? Don't you agree this is probably the most popular and most united pro-life position? It is certainly the one of Catholics and most evangelicals. This is the position I mean. I do not think it is too far off track to refer to this as the usual' pro-life position.
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