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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    for the record every pro-lifer I know in person doesnt even consider abortion murder not just the morning after pill

    now Im not saying those people dont exist. i seen them extremists on-line, on forums and video clips but Ive never encountered one in person
    If you accept life begins at conception, how can you not think it is murder?

    Note: I said if, I'm not interested in you disputing the pro-life position, but simply on what that position means.
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Well some might not understand that there is a real dispute over whether it causes abortion. But, unless they have an unusual pro-life philosophy, they are being inconsistent or lacking moral courage if they aren't against it. If the dispute is cleared up and it can be shown not to cause abortion then not all pro-lifers should be against it, but right now they should be, unless they have an unusual pro-life position.
    there you go again falsely grouping people without proving your claims

    I want proof what is usual and unusual pro-life
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    there you go again falsely grouping people without proving your claims

    I want proof what is usual and unusual pro-life
    I mean that full human life and personhood begins at conception. I don't think it is relatively uncontroversial that this is the usual pro-life perspective. It is certainly that of Catholics, which represents a billion people or more.
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    If you accept life begins at conception, how can you not think it is murder?

    Note: I said if, I'm not interested in you disputing the pro-life position, but simply on what that position means.
    simple because people accept that words have definitions and they dont just make definitions up to words

    this is common sense and not confusing in the slightest

    are you telling me if I get a group of people together and decide that all sex is rape that makes it true just because me and a bunch of people hold that belief? of course your not saying that so why would anybody logical accept your made up definition of murder?
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    You didn't answer my question. They would accept my definition because they see no difference in killing a fetus and killing an innocent adult.
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    I mean that full human life and personhood begins at conception. I don't think it is relatively uncontroversial that this is the usual pro-life perspective. It is certainly that of Catholics, which represents a billion people or more.
    you have said prior to this that is the usual perspective of pro-lifers is that abortion is murder, are you now saying you dont believe that?
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    You didn't answer my question.
    yes I 100% did

    you asked "if you accept life begins at conception, how can you not think it is murder?"

    and I answered "simple because people accept that words have definitions and they dont just make definitions up to words"

    this means the definition of murder doesnt allow it to be murder, thats how

    you can accept this answer or not but it is an answer and it is a fact with or without your acceptance LMAO
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    you have said prior to this that is the usual perspective of pro-lifers is that abortion is murder, are you now saying you dont believe that?
    I'm saying it is the only logical and consistent position for someone who has the usual pro-life philosophy, or in other words see a fetus as as much a full human being as an adult.
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    I'm saying it is the only logical and consistent position for someone who has the usual pro-life philosophy, or in other words see a fetus as as much a full human being as an adult.
    so you are stating your opinion AGAIN without any proof of such claim

    got it, thats what I thought
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    yes I 100% did

    you asked "if you accept life begins at conception, how can you not think it is murder?"

    and I answered "simple because people accept that words have definitions and they dont just make definitions up to words"

    this means the definition of murder doesnt allow it to be murder, thats how

    you can accept this answer or not but it is an answer and it is a fact with or without your acceptance LMAO
    So where is the distinction that pro-lifers should make? When they avowedly think a fetus is as much a full human being and person as an adult, where does the distinction come from which allows them to see the killing of an innocent adult as murder and that of a fetus as not murder?
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