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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Keridan View Post
    Oops, took me a bit writing the response on the other thread.

    I personally feel Plan B is different than abortion since it denies conception in the first place and I'd have to go with it being fine. I'd be much fuzzier with them having an abortion.
    i think it denies implantation, not conception.

    edit: i guess i might be wrong about this.
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Of course she should be able to take it.
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Here's a better analogy: someone wants to jump out of an airplane, with a parachute. You want to take away the parachute in order to punish them for being stupid enough to jump out of an airplane. Yeah, that makes sense.
    Your analogy is slightly flawed. I have no problem with the jumping out of the plane. I don't think it's very bright and I wouldn't do it without extensive pre-planning, but that's their choice. What I do want them to do is to pack their own parachute and put it on BEFORE they jump. Plan B is like tossing another parachute packed by a professional out with them in case the first one doesn't work. THAT is what I'm against doing.

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Sex is other people's private business, including how they think through the decision to have it. If your only argument is that you want to punish someone for having sex, that fails.
    I don't want to punish them for having sex. I want to punish them for failing to accept the potential consequences of having sex.

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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackstone View Post
    You're defining "conception" differently than most people, then. The sperm has already fertilized the egg and has created a human embryo. Conception has already taken place. The morning after pill is considered an abortifacient for precisely this reason, it is aborting an already-begun pregnancy, an already-begun human life. Plan B acts to prevent the human embryo from moving down the fallopian tube and attaching itself to the uterine wall, where it is nourished and grows for the next nine months of gestation before it is ready to leave the womb. In other words, it is equivalent to preventing a newborn infant from attaching itself to its mother's breast to feed. The life already exists. The abortifacient does not prevent conception, it prevents the growth, nourishment and development of an already conceived human child. Preventing conception in the first place is quite a different thing. Plan B is a chemical abortion.

    As for rape victims, while I cannot imagine how horrible a daily reminder of rape must be along with all the normal pain and inconvenience pregnancy brings, killing an innocent human life is not an acceptable way to alleviate suffering. Adoption is a humane alternative to an unwanted pregnancy, murder is not. A human life begins at conception and deserves the full protection of the law from that point on.
    So then you support women who are raped to violated twice. How very compassionate of you. Did you form this opinion the first time you thought you were pregnant? Or was it during your first actual pregnancy?
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    It should be available for eveyone, just take a walk around your local walmart on a saturday and I think you will agree that chantel aged 22 doesn't need to have a 5th kid...

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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Any woman should have access to it, rape or no rape. It should also be OTC and without prescription, but I support putting it behind the pharmacist's counter so that there is some check on whether or not it is truly needed.

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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?
    I think that they should almost be required to take it... and any woman should be able to take it at any time regardless.
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackstone View Post
    You're defining "conception" differently than most people, then. The sperm has already fertilized the egg and has created a human embryo. Conception has already taken place. The morning after pill is considered an abortifacient for precisely this reason, it is aborting an already-begun pregnancy, an already-begun human life. Plan B acts to prevent the human embryo from moving down the fallopian tube and attaching itself to the uterine wall, where it is nourished and grows for the next nine months of gestation before it is ready to leave the womb. In other words, it is equivalent to preventing a newborn infant from attaching itself to its mother's breast to feed. The life already exists. The abortifacient does not prevent conception, it prevents the growth, nourishment and development of an already conceived human child. Preventing conception in the first place is quite a different thing. Plan B is a chemical abortion.

    As for rape victims, while I cannot imagine how horrible a daily reminder of rape must be along with all the normal pain and inconvenience pregnancy brings, killing an innocent human life is not an acceptable way to alleviate suffering. Adoption is a humane alternative to an unwanted pregnancy, murder is not. A human life begins at conception and deserves the full protection of the law from that point on.
    Humans are just animals like any other animal other than we are more evolved and more intelligent. So what if conception has already taken place. The human can't feel pain, has no consciousness, is a few cells big, can't think, can't see, can't hear, can't smell, can't eat, can't drink, can't fart, can't do anything and will face a likely situation that it will be aborted naturally anyway. do you support every woman that has sex to be constantly monitored in the event that she gets pregnant so that evry human life can be medically looked after so that no miscarriages take place? If not then you are sending mixed messages.
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Humans are just animals like any other animal other than we are more evolved and more intelligent. So what if conception has already taken place. The human can't feel pain, has no consciousness, is a few cells big, can't think, can't see, can't hear, can't smell, can't eat, can't drink, can't fart, can't do anything and will face a likely situation that it will be aborted naturally anyway. do you support every woman that has sex to be constantly monitored in the event that she gets pregnant so that evry human life can be medically looked after so that no miscarriages take place? If not then you are sending mixed messages.
    I'm sorry but humans are not animals. Animals do not have a concious and that is the difference. You just defined why we should protect that life because it is so helpless. What could be more helpless than a being that can't feel pain, has no consciousness, is a few cells big, can't think, can't see, can't hear, can't smell, can't eat, can't drink, can't fart, can't do anything. And who are you to say that if will face a likely situation that it will be aborted naturally anyway? What does that even mean? What is a "natural abortion"? Miscarriages are unfortunate events that occur due to many factors. Some could be because of the mom using drugs or not taking care of herself but more often than not they just happen, especially with women who have never had children.

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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I think that they should almost be required to take it... and any woman should be able to take it at any time regardless.
    Where does it stop? So, first its rape victims should be required to take it. Next, lets go with women who are living below the poverty line because obviously they can't support the child and we'll end up paying for it. After that, women that have a better chance of passing along a hereditary disease because we don't want a bunch of autistic kids running around we have to support. Before long, we are breeding a perfect society. Wow, sounds kind of like Nazi Germany circa 1940ish. Keep spewing your "we know whats better for you than you do" rhetoric buddy.
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