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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    I believe the rape victim should have 100% control over her own body, and should be able to end the pregnancy at will. She has already lost control of her body because of the rape. Putting her through more is cruel.
    And you would sacrifice a child for that? I do not believe that women who are pregnant should have total control over the child. It is just an appeal to a slogan to say they should have such control and ignore the other person involved, a person who is weak and vulnerable and cannot survive without them. It is bad enough when you don't use your property to help those who are weak and vulnerable, when a mother does it it is unconscionable.

    Plus what Misterman said.
    Last edited by Wessexman; 12-30-11 at 07:58 PM.
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Respectfully, I don't see what your first sentence addresses. Your second segment is a little obscure to me. The developing life is innocent. I also don't see your comparison between an innocent and developing life, and a child with its own conscience. The same goes for your third segment, because a developing life within the womb is innocent, and has no conscience. Why kill a life for what the father did? I cannot agree with your claim that developing within a womb is physical assault. You may as well say that all lives developing withi the womb is physical assault. As I've said before, the focus is on the innocent life, and not the guilty rapist. The life is innocent, and it is morally reprehensible to snuff out the innocent life because of hatred for the guilty. It is a mistake to equate pregnancy and birth to physical assault and rape, because then you[general] would have to declare that for all or be seen as an emotional and biased hypocrite.
    Wake, don't reply to the nonsense, seriously you will probably loose braincells.
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by fredmertz View Post
    I'm not going to read all 26 pages of this to see if anyone has introduced REALITY to this question, so I'll just insert it here just in case no one else has:

    The Morning after pill can either 1) If taken early enough, stop the sperm from fertilizing the egg or 2) prevent the fertilized egg from attaching to the wall of the uterus.

    How Does it Work? - Morning After Pill

    That being said, even those against the pill due to it 'aborting' a pregnancy that has already started, please acknowledge that it's not necessarily true. It can take up to 3 days for the egg to be fertilized after sex. If you take it, literally the morning after, you're most likely just preventing fertilization.
    Very well put.
    Nothing needs to be added.

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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    The sperm of a rapist growing in a woman he violently injected into her is NOT innocent. It is an violent assailant of unthinkable and ongoing moment by moment escalating assault. The ONLY innocent one is the woman and she may use ANY means to stop that violent assault continuing. DNA will confirm the assaulting organism is the rapist as a mindless symboltic division of himself continuing and increasingly physically and violently assaulting the woman - and in early stage with less self awareness or mentality than if he had injected a growing leach into her.

    I understand your extreme belief in all rapists 'rights - thus all men's right - to procreate thru as many women as he possibly can by as many rapes of as many women as he can manage to do - and that you fully approve to the point of making it a legal right that no woman may attempt to prevent him from succeeding.

    The organism of his DNA he injected into her is NOT innocent. It is a living and growing weapon and assailant of his against her that is in fact still the rapist - not with your blessing but even more with your desired legal protection.

    We are on opposite extremes. You as PRO-RAPIST RIGHTS as is possible. I am as ANTI-RAPIST RIGHTS as possible.

    Here is both absolute correct logic and scientific fact:
    1. Any man who declares that the force of law should require any and all women to bear the child of a rapist is in fact arguing for him to have the protected option to create prodigy in as many women as he can successful rape until and unless he is stopped.
    2. The only possible manner to stop such a man from ever exercising the option to procreate by raping women other than imprisoning or execution such a man is to castrate him.
    3. Thus, as a scientific fact, the certain way to assure men that want the option to procreate by rape - which procreation as a scientific fact is a biological complusion - is all such men being castrated prior to possibly exercising the option they want to have.
    4. Therefore, as a logical and scientific fact, all men who want to in any manner protect procreation by rape should be castrated to avoid the issue of whether or not such an infectious violently assaultive fetus may be aborted.
    SUMMARY: As an perfectly logical and scientific fact, all men who believe a woman made pregnant by rape should be banned from abortion should be castrated.
    Last edited by joko104; 12-30-11 at 08:28 PM.

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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    And you would sacrifice a child for that? I do not believe that women who are pregnant should have total control over the child. It is just an appeal to a slogan to say they should have such control and ignore the other person involved, a person who is weak and vulnerable and cannot survive without them. It is bad enough when you don't use your property to help those who are weak and vulnerable, when a mother does it it is unconscionable.

    Plus what Misterman said.
    The woman's life is more valuable than the zef. I wonder if you and those who think like you could force a rape victim to continue a resulting pregnancy.
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    The woman's life is more valuable than the zef. I wonder if you and those who think like you could force a rape victim to continue a resulting pregnancy.
    Respectfully, I believe the developing life is innocent and doesn't deserve to be killed due to the woman's feelings of hatred and rage. Lock the rapist up for life, but let the innocent life live, because it has done no wrong. No one is weighing the woman's life to the developing human's life, regarding death. As for making laws about it, I don't know. The morality of protecting the developing life is not only contained to Christianity and other religions, but secularism as well. To be honest, I don't know what proceedings actions/laws should be made, if any. Someone must protect the innocent.

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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    The woman's life is more valuable than the zef. I wonder if you and those who think like you could force a rape victim to continue a resulting pregnancy.
    Why is the woman's life more valuable? The fetus is a separate human life form. It therefore has a human nature and, at least potentially, within it all of the full development of a human person. If you get to decide that it is too potential and not actual enough of a human person to be expendable, this seems very arbitrary. Why would such decisions have to stop at the womb?
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    The sperm of a rapist growing in a woman he violently injected into her is NOT innocent.
    So presumably if somehow the woman did give birth to the child then, when it comes of age, it should be arrested for rape?

    It is an violent assailant of unthinkable and ongoing moment by moment escalating assault. The ONLY innocent one is the woman and she may use ANY means to stop that violent assault continuing. DNA will confirm the assaulting organism is the rapist as a mindless symboltic division of himself continuing and increasingly physically and violently assaulting the woman - and in early stage with less self awareness or mentality than if he had injected a growing leach into her.

    I understand your extreme belief in all rapists 'rights - thus all men's right - to procreate thru as many women as he possibly can by as many rapes of as many women as he can manage to do - and that you fully approve to the point of making it a legal right that no woman may attempt to prevent him from succeeding.

    The organism of his DNA he injected into her is NOT innocent. It is a living and growing weapon and assailant of his against her that is in fact still the rapist - not with your blessing but even more with your desired legal protection.

    We are on opposite extremes. You as PRO-RAPIST RIGHTS as is possible. I am as ANTI-RAPIST RIGHTS as possible.

    Here is both absolute correct logic and scientific fact:
    1. Any man who declares that the force of law should require any and all women to bear the child of a rapist is in fact arguing for him to have the protected option to create prodigy in as many women as he can successful rape until and unless he is stopped.
    2. The only possible manner to stop such a man from ever exercising the option to procreate by raping women other than imprisoning or execution such a man is to castrate him.
    3. Thus, as a scientific fact, the certain way to assure men that want the option to procreate by rape - which procreation as a scientific fact is a biological complusion - is all such men being castrated prior to possibly exercising the option they want to have.
    4. Therefore, as a logical and scientific fact, all men who want to in any manner protect procreation by rape should be castrated to avoid the issue of whether or not such an infectious violently assaultive fetus may be aborted.
    SUMMARY: As an perfectly logical and scientific fact, all men who believe a woman made pregnant by rape should be banned from abortion should be castrated.
    I think you should be banned from you using your keyboard before you have some kind of seizure.
    Last edited by Wessexman; 12-30-11 at 09:08 PM.
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Wake, don't reply to the nonsense, seriously you will probably loose braincells.
    I agree. His comments, some of them, are incredibly radical. So much so it's hard to take seriously. Pro-rapist? Men, [because, duh, no women share our views], should be castrated for wanting to protect the innocent life? Ludicrous.

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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I agree. His comments, some of them, are incredibly radical. So much so it's hard to take seriously. Pro-rapist? Men, [because, duh, no women share our views], should be castrated for wanting to protect the innocent life? Ludicrous.
    I don't mind the radical so much, I mind the syphilitic nut-case comments... the 9/11 truther stuff, most of his foreign policy, though I do like some of his views on the economy, currency manipulation, trade, and his views that freedom doesn't stop just when it becomes uncomfortable. The more I know about Ron Paul, the less I can see him as President...
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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