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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    If she was not impregnated then it doesn't do much. It she was impregnated then it kills the fetus.
    Exactly. So you would advocate for legal control of women's bodies on the off chance that they might have conceived?










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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Exactly. So you would advocate for legal control of women's bodies on the off chance that they might have conceived?
    It is only "legal control of women's bodies" to the extent that we take control of a murderer's body. Yet no one would call laws against murders legal control against murderer's bodies.

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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    If she was not impregnated then it doesn't do much. It she was impregnated then it kills the fetus.
    You're totally confused. Plan B doesn't do anything if the woman is impregnated, that is meaning the zygote implanted in the uterus. The first action of Plan B is to prevent ovulation. There is some speculation by scientists, no certainty, that Plan B maybe possibly would prevent implantation if it fails to prevent ovulation, and that is what SOME people consider an abortion.
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by OKgrannie View Post
    You're totally confused. Plan B doesn't do anything if the woman is impregnated, that is meaning the zygote implanted in the uterus. The first action of Plan B is to prevent ovulation. There is some speculation by scientists, no certainty, that Plan B maybe possibly would prevent implantation if it fails to prevent ovulation, and that is what SOME people consider an abortion.
    What you are calling speculation is rather a legitimate and unsettled divide amongst the evidence and experts. It is about 50/50, which is strong enough odds for pro-lifers to object, as far as I can see. As far as I know what it may do is considered abortion from the general pro-life perspective.
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    On this issue, yes we do prefer big gov't. A) Because Planned Parenthood is a Federal program B) Because murder shouldn't be okay in any state. There's some things that no state should be allowed to institute and this is one of them.
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    And, of course, Planned Parenthood is NOT a federal program, does Rush(or some other microphone-myoptic ) say that it is ????

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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    What you are calling speculation is rather a legitimate and unsettled divide amongst the evidence and experts. It is about 50/50, which is strong enough odds for pro-lifers to object, as far as I can see. As far as I know what it may do is considered abortion from the general pro-life perspective.
    That depends on the pro-lifer in question.

    I consider myself pro-life, but I don't consider it abortion until a woman knows she is pregnant. And there is absolutely no way to know you are pregnant (as of right now) until after implantation.
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    That depends on the pro-lifer in question.

    I consider myself pro-life, but I don't consider it abortion until a woman knows she is pregnant. And there is absolutely no way to know you are pregnant (as of right now) until after implantation.
    So if a woman was in a coma, and a doctor took the fetus out at 8 1/2 months, that wouldn't be abortion because she didn't know about it?
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Desiring to award full legal, civil and constitutionally protected rights to a rapist's sperm seems a rather sick sense of morality.

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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Desiring to award full legal, civil and constitutionally protected rights to a rapist's sperm seems a rather sick sense of morality.
    Desiring to take away the rights of a rapists child seems a rather sick sense of morality.
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Desiring to take away the rights of a rapists child seems a rather sick sense of morality.
    Because you apparently believe rapists have superior genetics you want his sperm to become a child.
    Because the woman resisted becoming pregnant thus you see her as anti-life, so believe she should be further physically and psychologically assaulted by forcing her to endure pregnancy and labor.
    Because the rapist has created life unilaterally, where for others it takes two wanting to do so, you see the rapist as the most pro-life of all, for which he should be rewarded with a child and the government should pay all expenses of that child as reward for his services of creating life.
    Rapists are so pro-life superior to others, you believe he should be awarded genetic immortality.
    In short, you want the rapist to succeed to the extent you want him to succeed forever.

    These are among the reasons why the most extreme "pro-life" - meaning pro-rapist - advocates are quite immoral. They literally are wannabe accomplishes to rape and what to join in to radically increase the suffering and harm to the woman as much as possible. You want to maximize the rapist's success potential in degrading, controlling and dominating the woman because rapists are the most pro-life of all.

    How many children have you adopted or provide foster care for with your supposedly being so concerned about children? Or is that not your reason but only a rationality and rather it is you're pro-rapist unilateral parenting rights?
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