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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Well I can certainly make that call. Yes, the life of an abused 9 year old is more important than the embryo that will destroy her insides for life and possibly kill her. Little girls... and even *gasp!* women... are actual living, breathing people, not perhaps-someday people. And most importantly, they are not chattel, they are not property, and they have the same right to control what happens to their own bodies as men do. A stunning revelation to some, I know. Deal with it.
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    I didn't make a comment about the excommunication because I really don't know enough about the situation. I was merely trying to point out that making the choice between the baby and the mother is not an easy one, as you seemed to imply.
    Dude.

    This one is a slam-dunk.

    A NINE-YEAR-OLD GIRL WAS RAPED, for God's sake.

    Never mind the fact that this girl will be scarred for life from her rape (you are opposed to that, right?). You know how dangerous it is for a girl that young to be carrying a fetuses? Fetuses don't try to come out smaller simply because their mother is smaller.

    You're seriously trying to convince us that the abortion might have been as morally bad as the rape? Good god...

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Well I can certainly make that call. Yes, the life of an abused 9 year old is more important than the embryo that will destroy her insides for life and possibly kill her. Little girls... and even *gasp!* women... are actual living, breathing people, not perhaps-someday people. And most importantly, they are not chattel, they are not property, and they have the same right to control what happens to their own bodies as men do. A stunning revelation to some, I know. Deal with it.
    Oh man. He might understand this someday if he, too, had ovaries!
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Dude.

    This one is a slam-dunk.

    A NINE-YEAR-OLD GIRL WAS RAPED, for God's sake.

    Never mind the fact that this girl will be scarred for life from her rape (you are opposed to that, right?). You know how dangerous it is for a girl that young to be carrying a fetuses? Fetuses don't try to come out smaller simply because their mother is smaller.

    You're seriously trying to convince us that the abortion might have been as morally bad as the rape? Good god...
    If someone asked you if murder or rape was worse, how would you respond?

    Oh man. He might understand this someday if he, too, had ovaries!
    Now how about a real argument?

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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    omg. Backing slowly out. This thread could be a potential infraction for me so instead of sitting on my hands, I'll just wander off.

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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    If someone asked you if murder or rape was worse, how would you respond?



    Now how about a real argument?
    At what point does conscienous begin?










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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    It should be available for eveyone, just take a walk around your local walmart on a saturday and I think you will agree that chantel aged 22 doesn't need to have a 5th kid...
    I knew a 19 year old with 5 kids, and she was on welfare... and welfare wouldn't pay for her to get her tubes tied despite wanting them tied. That's ****ed up. Also, the last two were twins. I wouldn't be surprised if she has more kids now, and I also heard she lost custody of her kids at least once. In short, I agree with you. Some people don't need more kids.

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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackstone View Post
    This is patently absurd. If it was not an abortion pill, Obama would have absolutely no interest in Plan B, nor in its accessibility to women.
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    The morning after pill should be available to any woman of legal age for any reason whatsoever.
    I agree. Plan B is an amazing invention. It's very empowering for a female to take it as opposed to worry for weeks, feeling powerless and scared. A rape victim shouldn't have to go through more, and Plan B prevents more abortion. No woman wants to experience abortion. Plan B is very very valuable.

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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Well I can certainly make that call. Yes, the life of an abused 9 year old is more important than the embryo that will destroy her insides for life and possibly kill her. Little girls... and even *gasp!* women... are actual living, breathing people, not perhaps-someday people. And most importantly, they are not chattel, they are not property, and they have the same right to control what happens to their own bodies as men do. A stunning revelation to some, I know. Deal with it.
    Your comments are highly ironic, seeing as the embryo is there in our world and even according to you is a 'perhaps-someday person'. It is extremely hard, if you are rational, to see in what sense you can make the difference between formal human being in the womb, which it is according to your own words, with all the nature of a human being, at least potentially if not all actually, and the 9 old girl( and I noticed you have chosen the most extreme example you can think of) whose nature is no more, by the reason of your own words, human, but simply more is actual in our universe and less is potential. If we followed your reasoning we'd see it was arbitrary, as phattonez suggests, and leads to all sorts of awkward judgments about what is the right development of your individual, personal, formal human nature to not be considered expendable.

    Now I honestly do not know what to do in cases where it would be very dangerous for the mother to carry the fetus to term. But the question of rape and incest is different and it makes no sense for a pro-life person to wish to allow them to be aborted. I know there is a strange view that such people who are against abortion even in these cases are extremists. But this is nonsense, it is in the very logic of the thing to for them to be opposed to them. It is just playing into the 'pro-choice' sides hands to accept such nonsense.
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    Re: Should a rape victim be able to take the morning after pill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    At what point does conscienous begin?
    Is it consciousness that determines human dignity? So a person in a coma has no dignity?

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