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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gie View Post
    Simply link where the data in that material supports your comments.
    It says right on that page that 11% of people don't have photo ID that meet the requirements about current address and whatnot. The page also contains links to all the extensive studies backing up that finding. If there is something else you need a source for, lets hear it. Otherwise I gather that despite your blowhardiness you have conceded the actual issue.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gie View Post
    Simply link where the data in that material supports your comments. Then correlate how this means we should not reform the system, try to sell it to the masses and good luck. Expect disappointment. Just saying the masses clearly are not buying it. Which is A-OK in my book. Like I said, you gotta come to the internet to see the whole don't reform it argument passionately made. Regardless how flat and lifeless it comes across.
    How about you post a source as expert as the Brennan Center for Justice to refute them, if you can? So far, everyone has provided documented sources to back up their position, and you have provided only your opinion.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    It says right on that page that 11% of people don't have photo ID that meet the requirements about current address and whatnot. The page also contains links to all the extensive studies backing up that finding. If there is something else you need a source for, lets hear it. Otherwise I gather that despite your blowhardiness you have conceded the actual issue.
    Source? I need none at all. Are you not able to follow along? You are right, my "blowhardiness" does not find a thing you have said to make a valid or even common sense argument for why we should NOT require voters to prove they are who they say they are and have the right to vote. How silly of you to make the 'a little bit of fraud never hurt anybody except a few people' case. What about the fact that neither I nor to judge the public at large is not buying your case is it that bothers you? Wait. Sorry. Who cares? This has nothing to do with how many times anything has been prosecuted and that is a seriously limp noodle you have there. Just saying. This is why you are in for reams of frustration, your silly internet argument, meandering and unrelated as it is to the issue of reform, is only that. An internet argument, I'm very thankful that is the only place anyone will pay it any attention.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    It's unfortunate, but now there are too many illegals running around to NOT have to show ID. I wish they would required more than just a photo. Thanks, liberals, for weakening our borders and making even simple things like voting become needlessly complex.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Sunbelt, apparently you're not from Texas. GWB did and Perry allows the borders to be weak for political reasons. Think about it.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Sunbelt, apparently you're not from Texas. GWB did and Perry allows the borders to be weak for political reasons. Think about it.
    The fact of the matter is that despite political posturing, the border towns in Texas are some of the safest to live in, in the United States.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gie View Post
    Source? I need none at all. Are you not able to follow along? You are right, my "blowhardiness" does not find a thing you have said to make a valid or even common sense argument for why we should NOT require voters to prove they are who they say they are and have the right to vote. How silly of you to make the 'a little bit of fraud never hurt anybody except a few people' case. What about the fact that neither I nor to judge the public at large is not buying your case is it that bothers you? Wait. Sorry. Who cares? This has nothing to do with how many times anything has been prosecuted and that is a seriously limp noodle you have there. Just saying. This is why you are in for reams of frustration, your silly internet argument, meandering and unrelated as it is to the issue of reform, is only that. An internet argument, I'm very thankful that is the only place anyone will pay it any attention.
    I'm telling you. 4chan.com. Check it out. You'll like it better. It's more up your ally. No arguments, no evidence, just fun pictures.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunbelt View Post
    It's unfortunate, but now there are too many illegals running around to NOT have to show ID. I wish they would required more than just a photo. Thanks, liberals, for weakening our borders and making even simple things like voting become needlessly complex.
    Show us the statistics of illegals voting fraudulently???
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    I'm telling you. 4chan.com. Check it out. You'll like it better. It's more up your ally. No arguments, no evidence, just fun pictures.
    Nothing but a thinly veiled ad hom. I'd be careful from here on out in this thread, since that is all you have to fall back on. It really does steam your Cleavland that you can't make any head way with your empty rhetoric huh? You just can't wrap your limp noodle around the fact you can't put forth a cognizant and even relevant argument on the topic. Clearly. That is not my fault, or anyone else's for that matter. You take up the "a little bit of fraud is OK" banner you get what you volunteered for. So what if this leaves you making the same sad little case that the crooked politicians who count on being able to count on illegal and fraudulent votes does. You wanna blabber about prosecution rates, well blabber away. Just stop looking for atta-boys for it. I don't atta-boy folks thumb gouging themselves in both eyes while they crow about their "view" of the world through the same prism.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gie View Post
    The fact of the matter is that despite political posturing, the border towns in Texas are some of the safest to live in, in the United States.
    I don't posture...I'm a native Texan. I've lived here for quite a few decades. I know the politics here. I know how safe for unsafe the border is along Texas. Believe me, it's plenty unsafe and you can drive bus loads of terrorists across.

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