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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    1. Unintended consequences.

    2. The pain inflicted upon the innocent by a partisan authoritarian attempt to solve a problem that has not been shown to exist (as a backdoor route to partisan disenfranchisement).
    In other words, nothing, really.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Sure looks like compelling evidence for positive voter identification:

    Voter Fraud | Dead | New Hampshire | The Daily Caller

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Sure looks like compelling evidence for positive voter identification:

    Voter Fraud | Dead | New Hampshire | The Daily Caller
    If you still consider O'Keefe videos to be evidence of anything after he was exposed for having faked the previous ones I've got a bridge you might be interested in buying

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    If you still consider O'Keefe videos to be evidence of anything after he was exposed for having faked the previous ones I've got a bridge you might be interested in buying
    You've got a bridge??? So are you expecting some BHO infrastructure 'grant' to repair said bridge??? Before you try to sell to me???...See, sarcasm is fun. Thank your for that.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Wow, how surprising. Not only did Catawba run for the hills where his "17.2" percent argument went to die, but this must also be the place where the DNC hid the whole "requiring an ID to vote will disenfranchise voters" brain fart. Too bad, who knew that this is really all about getting illegal votes from non citizens so ya can get into office ala politics as usual? I mean aside from everyone but passionate defender of the same Catawba?

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gie View Post
    Wow, how surprising. Not only did Catawba run for the hills where his "17.2" percent argument went to die, but this must also be the place where the DNC hid the whole "requiring an ID to vote will disenfranchise voters" brain fart. Too bad, who knew that this is really all about getting illegal votes from non citizens so ya can get into office ala politics as usual? I mean aside from everyone but passionate defender of the same Catawba?

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    If you still consider O'Keefe videos to be evidence of anything after he was exposed for having faked the previous ones I've got a bridge you might be interested in buying
    I'm gonna run down to the nearest voting place and grab up a whole bunch of those false documents so I can try to vote out all of the crooked politicians who have been ****ing the voters to death for decades.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Wow, how predictable. Logging in, checking your 'subscribed to' threads where a certain not so talented sham fartist foisted the whole "17.2" emission and never could deliver on "how" requiring an I.D. to vote would do as he claimed? Then noticing that like most internet "debaters" he went *poof* when it became obvious how sad and trite his organ grind had become is now "trolling"? OK! Correct trolling none the less. I know I'd post a picture that implied a message even more weak than the noxious one I had before. If confronted with such and I had no stones. Or really would just rather, slither.......................

    Good for you Catawba, good for you. Still all in all, a poor and unpersuasive argument you saddled yourself with there. Way to go, bully for you. A complete failure in any intellectual or "debate" sense, but then we all know ahead of time that on these types of "debate" matters you cleave to the Sheen play book. You drink tigers blood and are WINNING!
    Last edited by Gie; 01-16-12 at 01:32 AM.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gie View Post
    Wow, how surprising. Not only did Catawba run for the hills where his "17.2" percent argument went to die, but this must also be the place where the DNC hid the whole "requiring an ID to vote will disenfranchise voters" brain fart. Too bad, who knew that this is really all about getting illegal votes from non citizens so ya can get into office ala politics as usual? I mean aside from everyone but passionate defender of the same Catawba?
    About 1% of legal voters don't have a valid photo ID. About 10% of legal voters don't have a photo ID that was issued by the state they are voting in which has their current address. We can assume that some portion of the people in those categories would go and get a new ID just to vote, but realistically, not many. So, just requiring a voter ID disenfranchises around 1% of the voters- about 2.5 million people, where requiring a photo ID that was issued by the state in which you are voting and which has your current address disenfranchises around 25 million people. Maybe if you figure 1 in 5 would go get a new ID just to vote, that'd be 2 million and 20 million.

    As a point of comparison, the highest estimates for fraud I've ever seen from any study indicated that fraudulent votes account for maybe 0.1% of votes cast in the worst case scenarios. Most estimates are down in the 0.001% sort of range for a typical election, but lets go with 0.1% just to be ultra conservative about it. So, total, a provision requiring any valid photo ID would make elections 0.7% less accurate (still assuming 1/5 would go get a new ID), where a provision requiring a photo ID issued by the state you are voting in with your current address would make voting 7.9% less accurate.

    Personally, I'm willing to sacrifice 0.7% of the accuracy of our elections just to make you guys shut up about it already. But 7.9%? No freaking way. That is straight up election rigging of the sort that can be a real threat to democracy itself.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    And everybody only thought that the Russians and Chinese brainwash their people...HA!

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