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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    I really do pay attention to what I am reading, though just like you nonchalantly ask questions of personal nature and think nothing big of it. Well it does, to me it's just weird behavior. Paranoid? Maybe, but look at this topic in a whole, It is about BIG NOSY BIG GOVERNMENT sinking into your life. What next? Are we going to have chips implanted in us before we can vote? Aw, your paranoid... that's technology that is being used today on dogs and criminals but when does it stop? Once you leave government in to your personal lives like simple Voter ID or Federal ID, where just where will they stop. Most likely I will never see the day of implanted chip at birth, but I can say the technology is being pushed already to have babies implanted with chips for their "public safety" I am pretty much against all types of government intrusions, defiantly not excluding Voter Photo ID Laws.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by barbarian_style View Post
    I really do pay attention to what I am reading, though just like you nonchalantly ask questions of personal nature and think nothing big of it. Well it does, to me it's just weird behavior. Paranoid? Maybe, but look at this topic in a whole, It is about BIG NOSY BIG GOVERNMENT sinking into your life. What next? Are we going to have chips implanted in us before we can vote? Aw, your paranoid... that's technology that is being used today on dogs and criminals but when does it stop? Once you leave government in to your personal lives like simple Voter ID or Federal ID, where just where will they stop. Most likely I will never see the day of implanted chip at birth, but I can say the technology is being pushed already to have babies implanted with chips for their "public safety" I am pretty much against all types of government intrusions, defiantly not excluding Voter Photo ID Laws.
    Please present (use copy and paste) where I asked you for personal information. And yes, you do come across as more than a little paranoid, seeing request for personal information where there are none. To say nothing of the argument you just described.
    Last edited by Gie; 12-30-11 at 04:36 PM.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by barbarian_style View Post
    I let my DL expire when I was younger as I was using mass transit. On voting day I didn't have a valid ID, only my expired one. Someone vouched that I was me and I got to vote. Not only did I get to vote but I got to register at the poll at that time.

    Slight exaggeration on the surcharge tax fee, but it really is becoming that bad, every time I go to DMV there is a new fee or surcharge. What used to be cheap is actually getting quite expensive.

    I really don't feel comfortable giving you any other personal information that you ask for such as the state I live so you can do your checks, thats just creaping and weird behavior.
    The new Tennessee law allows expired ones to count...even from another state:

    Any of the following IDs may be used, even if expired:

    •Tennessee drivers license with your photo
    •United States Passport
    •Photo ID issued by the Tennessee Department of Safety and Homeland Security
    •Photo ID issued by the federal or any state government
    •United States Military photo ID
    •State-issued handgun carry permit with your photo

    Tennessee Department of State: Elections

    Maybe check the laws in 'granny's' state. They also allow absentee voting without ID in TN also.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    The new Tennessee law allows expired ones to count...even from another state:

    Any of the following IDs may be used, even if expired:

    •Tennessee drivers license with your photo
    •United States Passport
    •Photo ID issued by the Tennessee Department of Safety and Homeland Security
    •Photo ID issued by the federal or any state government
    •United States Military photo ID
    •State-issued handgun carry permit with your photo

    Tennessee Department of State: Elections

    Maybe check the laws in 'granny's' state. They also allow absentee voting without ID in TN also.
    I do have to say Tennessee is a great template to look at for voter Photo ID laws. They do have some comprehensive laws on the issues. Though I just really can't be swayed away from disagreeing with any voter Photo ID laws, even if they are inevitable.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    The new Tennessee law allows expired ones to count...even from another state:

    Any of the following IDs may be used, even if expired:

    •Tennessee drivers license with your photo
    •United States Passport
    •Photo ID issued by the Tennessee Department of Safety and Homeland Security
    •Photo ID issued by the federal or any state government
    •United States Military photo ID
    •State-issued handgun carry permit with your photo

    Tennessee Department of State: Elections

    Maybe check the laws in 'granny's' state. They also allow absentee voting without ID in TN also.
    Thank you sir. As I stated earlier these matters are addressed differently throughout the states that have adopted the new ID laws. There is even a name given to them in some states..............

    Quote Originally Posted by barbarian_style View Post
    I do have to say Tennessee is a great template to look at for voter Photo ID laws. They do have some comprehensive laws on the issues. Though I just really can't be swayed away from disagreeing with any voter Photo ID laws, even if they are inevitable.
    Yeah they are generally called hardship laws, which I referred to earlier and suggested you educate yourself about in your state as regards dear old granny. Unfortunately you decided this was somehow creeping on you and asking you for personal information in some weird way. So when I see that no matter that there is comprehensive laws on the issue you won't be swayed on the issue anyway I say that is very honest. Let me tell you, I believe you.
    Last edited by Gie; 12-30-11 at 06:49 PM.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Why would any American be happy that large numbers of their fellow citizens are disenfranchised from voting?
    Because they are Republicans.

    Republicans have long tried to drive Democratic voters away from the polls. "I don't want everybody to vote," the influential conservative activist Paul Weyrich told a gathering of evangelical leaders in 1980. "As a matter of fact, our leverage in the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down." But since the 2010 election, thanks to a conservative advocacy group founded by Weyrich, the GOP's effort to disrupt voting rights has been more widespread and effective than ever. In a systematic campaign orchestrated by the American Legislative Exchange Council – and funded in part by David and Charles Koch, the billionaire brothers who bankrolled the Tea Party – 38 states introduced legislation this year designed to impede voters at every step of the electoral process.\

    Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-gop-war-on-voting-20110830
    Paul M. Weyrich (October 7, 1942 – December 18, 2008[1][2][3][4]) was an American conservative political activist and commentator, most notable as a figurehead of the New Right. He co-founded the Heritage Foundation,[5] a conservative think tank [...]

    Paul Weyrich - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    The new Tennessee law allows expired ones to count...even from another state:

    Any of the following IDs may be used, even if expired:

    •Tennessee drivers license with your photo
    •United States Passport
    •Photo ID issued by the Tennessee Department of Safety and Homeland Security
    •Photo ID issued by the federal or any state government
    •United States Military photo ID
    •State-issued handgun carry permit with your photo

    Tennessee Department of State: Elections

    Maybe check the laws in 'granny's' state. They also allow absentee voting without ID in TN also.
    Ex-Capitol Hill [Tennessee] [93-year-old] maid says she can't get voter ID - The Tennessean

    96-year-old Chattanooga woman denied voter ID - WSMV Channel 4 Nashville

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    These do not promote the 'bad law' position. They support the STUPID GOVENMENT EMPLOYEE position. Going to the DL office is second to going to Verizon around here.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    What point are you trying to make with your stories? In the first story she was wrong. In the second she did not bring the appropriate documents with her.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    What point are you trying to make with your stories? In the first story she was wrong. In the second she did not bring the appropriate documents with her.
    1. Unintended consequences.

    2. The pain inflicted upon the innocent by a partisan authoritarian attempt to solve a problem that has not been shown to exist (as a backdoor route to partisan disenfranchisement).

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