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Thread: Photo ID to vote?

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Between 2002 and 2006 according to the study 120 people were arrested and 86 convicted of Federal vote fraud in a national election.
    Over a five year period, that's right, that averages 17.2 people a year convicted out of 190 million voters.

    Great googly moogly!!!!
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Sure, why would I expect you to read the actual study before you weighed in with your words of wisdom?
    Um, I dunno, cuz I have no clue what study you speak of? Do you really think I read every link you post? Been there, done that, know better.


    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    My words were 17.2 which you assumed meant million rather than individuals.
    Here is your exact quote:
    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    On average, less than 17.2 out of 190 million voters..... omg, it will devastate our voting system!!!! Totally worth disenfranchising 5 million eligible voters.
    You didn’t do well with word problems in math, did you?


    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Do you have anything to add to the topic discussion, or are you here to argue over your misunderstanding of a subject you have no interest in learning more about?
    I’ll add more as I see fit. Why are you trying to disenfranchise me here on this forum? Seems you are all in favor of the right of others to have a voice until it carries a different tone than you want to listen to.

    I thought you were a saint who was on a mission to protect the voices of others, why are you in a hurry to silence me?
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Over a five year period, that's right, that averages 17.2 people a year convicted out of 190 million voters.

    Great googly moogly!!!!
    Do you live in another dimension where the only crimes committed equal those arrested or convicted? Come on Catawba, even you know this is beyond laughable.

    And you dare ask me what I have to offer after you attack my opinion based on such dog terds like this? Get a life dude.
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    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Over a five year period, that's right, that averages 17.2 people a year convicted out of 190 million voters.

    Great googly moogly!!!!
    Only 2 national elections were held in that 5 year period. Again you keep ignoring that like the amount of time somehow makes it better, lol.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Only 2 national elections were held in that 5 year period. Again you keep ignoring that like the amount of time somehow makes it better, lol.
    The idea that there are only 17.2 illegal votes out of 190 million (his numbers) isn't even worth further consideration. Even he knows he looks like a fool for standing by such claims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    Do you live in another dimension where the only crimes committed equal those arrested or convicted? Come on Catawba, even you know this is beyond laughable.

    And you dare ask me what I have to offer after you attack my opinion based on such dog terds like this? Get a life dude.
    Actually, with voter fraud, that is indeed the way you know the crime was committed. Unlike murder, there is no body to show there was crime even if nobody is ever arrested or convicted. Unlike arson where we have the charred hulk of a building reeking of gasoline which shows a crime was committed even if nobody is ever arrested or convicted. There is no empty cash drawer till or smashed jewelry store windows with empty displays devoid of their valuable merchandise.

    We only know that voter fraud has occurred when we get a conviction for it.

    Even in a case where we have more votes cast than voters, there may not be any fraud due to technical problems.

    Regardless if you like it or not, that is the reality of voter fraud.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    The idea that there are only 17.2 illegal votes out of 190 million (his numbers) isn't even worth further consideration. Even he knows he looks like a fool for standing by such claims.
    Take it up with the Bush Justice Dept. that did the 5 year study.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    The idea that there are only 17.2 illegal votes out of 190 million (his numbers) isn't even worth further consideration. Even he knows he looks like a fool for standing by such claims.
    Clearly he does not know that, as he has doubled down on the double dumb claim.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Take it up with the Bush Justice Dept. that did the 5 year study.
    He does not need to, the only person on planet Earth trying to make the "17.2" people claim is you. The poor argument grows ever more unpersuasive (or intelligent) with each post.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I am using YOUR own language

    So why are you happy about this?
    I see I made it too difficult to follow using If-then.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I see I made it too difficult to follow using If-then.
    So following your own language becomes too difficult for you? Go back and look at your own post 636. Look at the two in front of it for context. You obviously don't even know what you wrote.

    You established some terms, I applied them and then you called me a liar for using your own terms.

    Amazing really.

    Perhaps now you can explain why any American would be happy to have their fellow Americans disenfranchised as you describe in this statement

    If reasonable requirements equals disenfranchising then perhaps we should be happy they are not voting.
    Last edited by haymarket; 12-29-11 at 06:12 PM.
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