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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Since another Presidential election is coming up, how about this topic again?

    Should people have to show their photo ID in order to vote in US presidential elections? Why or why not?
    Absolutely they should! The push to allow otherwise is one of the most transparent efforts by crooked politicians to "cheat" I've ever seen in my life. IMO only politicians wishing to get illegal votes would oppose the common sense requirement to prove you have the right to vote; one of most important rights and responsibilities. You have to show your ID to do most anything else *important* in this country, the case should be the same regarding voting. I've always been required to show my ID when I vote, no having to do so is a guarantee for voter fraud.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    The only reason I can imagine anyone adamantly opposing the ID requirement is their desire to allow those who are in the country illegally an opportunity to vote.
    On average, less than 17.2 out of 190 million voters..... omg, it will devastate our voting system!!!! Totally worth disenfranchising 5 million eligible voters.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    On average, less than 17.2 out of 190 million voters..... omg, it will devastate our voting system!!!! Totally worth disenfranchising 5 million eligible voters.
    Whether it will "devastate" the system or just screw it a little so some politicians can get votes from "voters" that are not legal is not really the issue. A little fraud never hurt anyone. Right? Wrong. You present a poor and unpersuasive argument for allowing those without a state required ID to vote in our country.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    On average, less than 17.2 out of 190 million voters..... omg, it will devastate our voting system!!!! Totally worth disenfranchising 5 million eligible voters.
    If reasonable requirements equals disenfranchising then perhaps we should be happy they are not voting.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    If reasonable requirements equals disenfranchising then perhaps we should be happy they are not voting.
    Why would any American be happy that large numbers of their fellow citizens are disenfranchised from voting?
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Why would any American be happy that large numbers of their fellow citizens are disenfranchised from voting?
    They are not being disenfranchised. You are lying. If they are unwilling to meet reasonable requirements to prove they are eligible to vote then they should not vote.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    They are not being disenfranchised. You are lying. If they are unwilling to meet reasonable requirements to prove they are eligible to vote then they should not vote.
    I am using YOUR own language

    If reasonable requirements equals disenfranchising then perhaps we should be happy they are not voting.
    So why are you happy about this?
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Why would any American be happy that large numbers of their fellow citizens are disenfranchised from voting?
    Why would any American be happy that large numbers of ineligible non citizens are allowed to vote when they have no right to do so?

    Also, please share how requiring voters to show ID, proving they are whom they say they are and have the right to vote, disfranchises "voters". Ahead of time you can label me as quite happy that those being "disenfranchised" are those who have no right to be participating in the voting process in the first place. Requiring an ID from a citizen to vote only disenfranchises non citizens from voting, a necessary and long overdue part of election reform. Since the various ID requirements across the states enjoy bi partisan support, trying to pin this on one party of the other would be foolish.

    While I have not seen your so called argument for the so called "disenfranchised" I think you had better get used to the idea that this kind of reform is coming down the turnpike. The "disenfranchised" argument does not on the surface hold much value or common sense. I suspect beneath the surface it has does not hold much more value. Or common sense outside of a debate forum.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gie View Post
    Whether it will "devastate" the system or just screw it a little so some politicians can get votes from "voters" that are not legal is not really the issue. A little fraud never hurt anyone. Right? Wrong. You present a poor and unpersuasive argument for allowing those without a state required ID to vote in our country.
    Tell me what other criminal fraud we do as good of job preventing as we currently do with voter fraud?
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Why would any American be happy that large numbers of their fellow citizens are disenfranchised from voting?
    To limit people that would not vote for conservatives. It could hardly be more clear. Just another reason to vote out the conservatives in the next two elections.
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