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Thread: Photo ID to vote?

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    [...] 120 were arrested [...]
    So those who are arrested are guilty? Wow! We can save tons of money on judges and juries!

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    [...] and we don't know how many were under investigation and did not have enough evidence to prosecute.
    Even better! We don't even need to arrest people to prove them guilty, we only need to investigate them! Wow! We can now save even more money on police!

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    [...] Now many of them (convicted felons and illegals) say "well we didn't know," and did not get charged?
    Um, in many states felons are allowed to vote, so they don't commit a crime by doing so. But hey, I get your point! We can arrest (no, not needed) convict people of committing crimes that they didn't actually commit. Wow! The economy will be stimulated by all these new prisons we need to build! Pretty soon we'll surpass the Soviet Union in GNVPP! (Gross Non Voting Prison Population)


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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Typical of you to get it completely wrong.

    Here is your post - http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1060058132

    Here is your statement from the article - A five year study conducted by President Bush’s Justice Department found that out of more than 300 million votes, there were only 86 cases of individual voter fraud nationwide, and most of them involved immigrants who misunderstood their eligibility.

    The part in red is wrong.

    86 individuals were convicted, 120 were arrested, and we don't know how many were under investigation and did not have enough evidence to prosecute. Now many of them (convicted felons and illegals) say "well we didn't know," and did not get charged? So they were not prosecuted. Do you honestly believe that? Honestly? Besides ignorance of the law is no excuse. If I run a stop sign and said I did not know it was illegal, how far would I get?

    In either case it is wrong information as I already said... twice.

    Despite what you might think, red font does not disprove a five year study by the Justice Department. And saying it twice carries no more credibility than red font, just so you know.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Since another Presidential election is coming up, how about this topic again?

    Should people have to show their photo ID in order to vote in US presidential elections? Why or why not?
    You have to show ID to buy liquor, so as voting is so much more important then drinking, yes you should have to show ID to vote.
    Last edited by Jerry; 12-27-11 at 03:01 AM.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    So those who are arrested are guilty? Wow! We can save tons of money on judges and juries!
    Straw man, appeal to ridicule.

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Even better! We don't even need to arrest people to prove them guilty, we only need to investigate them! Wow! We can now save even more money on police!
    Appeal to Ridicule.

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Um, in many states felons are allowed to vote, so they don't commit a crime by doing so.
    This is true but no less a straw Man.

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    But hey, I get your point! We can arrest (no, not needed) convict people of committing crimes that they didn't actually commit. Wow!
    Appeal to ridicule.

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    The economy will be stimulated by all these new prisons we need to build! Pretty soon we'll surpass the Soviet Union in GNVPP! (Gross Non Voting Prison Population)
    Appeal to ridicule.

    Nothing but fallacy. Can't even respond to such nonsense.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Despite what you might think, red font does not disprove a five year study by the Justice Department. And saying it twice carries no more credibility than red font, just so you know.


    The study is just fine, you mite want to read what I said.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    You have to show ID to buy liquor, so as voting is so much more important then drinking, yes you should have to show ID to vote.
    No one ever asks me for ID when I buy liquor.

    They don't even ask for ID when I buy a senior ticket at the theater any more.

    Must be carelessness.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    No one ever asks me for ID when I buy liquor.

    They don't even ask for ID when I buy a senior ticket at the theater any more.

    Must be carelessness.
    You are just an old man! No wonder no one ID's you anymore, lol.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post


    The study is just fine, you mite want to read what I said.

    I did. Evidently you find your unsubstantiated opinion in red font more credible that I do. Sorry!
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I did. Evidently you find your unsubstantiated opinion in red font more credible that I do. Sorry!
    Keep dodging and trying hard to ignore my point, I don't really mind. As I said before the SCOTUS already ruled, it's pretty much over at this point. We can argue till the cows come home and ID's for voting as a trend with the states will continue. Of course I like the fact that if they really are to restrictive, the courts have no problem (as was the case in Missouri I believe) they said no and blocked it as it was a burden and unconstitutional.

    So I see it as a win for everyone even if you don't want to consider anything but your own partisan politicking.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    The only reason I can imagine anyone adamantly opposing the ID requirement is their desire to allow those who are in the country illegally an opportunity to vote.

    "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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