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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I read widely and frequently.

    States have an obligation to ensure that only citizens vote and then only once in each election. This is a reasonable way to do so. People who are too lazy, too stupid or too criminal to get a government issued ID are unlikely to vote anyway. What is the voter turnout for federal elections typically?

    Personally, I like it. Your mileage may vary.
    No reasons have been established to institute a system which may cost hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of people their vote. The system works and works quite well.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    No reasons have been established to institute a system which may cost hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of people their vote. The system works and works quite well.
    Only if you are a Democrat and are interested only in the outcome no matter the cost, i.e., The end justifies the means.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    It takes my fingerprint to get onto my computer. Maybe we should do that instead of photo ID....

    I really don't know why some of you don't want to keep the voting process for the highest office in the land secure and fair. What's the downside to that?


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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by a777pilot View Post
    It is only relevant in that you said...."...an id to prove they are a legal citizen eligible to vote..." which in fact is not true. Anyone can get a government photo ID.
    Yes illegally, but people are getting caught now. Law of averages says it will make it even easier. So the fact is true. Just because some can beat the system, does not make it wrong.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    No reasons have been established to institute a system which may cost hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of people their vote. The system works and works quite well.
    It has already been instituted and successful in 15 states. After state houses return from break even more will be. You are spitting into the wind.

    As for costing "millions of people" a vote. States had it operational in 2008 had no problems and noticed almost no effect on voter turnout. You can keep ignoring facts and that's OK. As I stated before the SCOTUS already won this argument and found it constitutional.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    It takes my fingerprint to get onto my computer. Maybe we should do that instead of photo ID....

    I really don't know why some of you don't want to keep the voting process for the highest office in the land secure and fair. What's the downside to that?
    Bio-metrics would not be a bad idea but it would be seen as an invasion of privacy. If the government does not have your fingerprints, they don't need them just to vote. They don't even do that to buy weapons, so I don't think it would fly at all.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by a777pilot View Post
    Only if you are a Democrat and are interested only in the outcome no matter the cost, i.e., The end justifies the means.
    Out of 190 million voters we average 17 cases of voter fraud a year. Looks like the $5,000 fine and five years in jail penalty for voter fraud is pretty damn effective.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Out of 190 million voters we average 17 cases of voter fraud a year. Looks like the $5,000 fine and five years in jail penalty for voter fraud is pretty damn effective.
    Oh BS! Get your head out.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by a777pilot View Post
    Oh BS! Get your head out.
    "A five year study conducted by President Bush’s Justice Department found that out of more than 300 million votes, there were only 86 cases of individual voter fraud nationwide, and most of them involved immigrants who misunderstood their eligibility. In Pennsylvania since 2004, there have been more than 20 million votes cast and 4 convictions of fraud, all involving people registering when not eligible.Subject: Voter ID Op-Ed by State Sen. Daylin Leach"
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    "A five year study conducted by President Bush’s Justice Department found that out of more than 300 million votes, there were only 86 cases of individual voter fraud nationwide, and most of them involved immigrants who misunderstood their eligibility. In Pennsylvania since 2004, there have been more than 20 million votes cast and 4 convictions of fraud, all involving people registering when not eligible.Subject: Voter ID Op-Ed by State Sen. Daylin Leach"
    Wrong. The study actually says...

    Although Republican activists have repeatedly said fraud is so widespread that it has corrupted the political process and, possibly, cost the party election victories, about 120 people have been charged and 86 convicted as of last year.

    Most of those charged have been Democrats, voting records show. Many of those charged by the Justice Department appear to have mistakenly filled out registration forms or misunderstood eligibility rules, a review of court records and interviews with prosecutors and defense lawyers show.


    Mistakes and lapses in enforcing voting and registration rules routinely occur in elections, allowing thousands of ineligible voters to go to the polls. But the federal cases provide little evidence of widespread, organized fraud, prosecutors and election law experts said.- In 5-Year Effort, Scant Evidence of Voter Fraud - New York Times

    ID's are not the answer, but they will help.
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