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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
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    Are you familiar with the concept of an axiom? We hold these truths to be self evident...
    Yup - an axiom is what you BELIEVE because it is what you want to BELIEVE because you BELEIVE it.

    This is Shakespearean, "Much ado about nothing."
    The irony meter just broke into a zillion little pieces. Right wingers pushing more government power to infringe upon a right mentioned five different times in the US Constitution can only demonstrate a piddly tiny insignificant 86 vote fraud convictions out of over 196 million votes case and now have the untimitaged gall to use a line like "much ado about nothing"!!!!!

    Amazing. Truly amazing.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    What are you talking about? The Brennan Center is hands down the most respected experts on the political process. That isn't speculation, they did a massive study on it...
    LOL:

    The Brennan Center for Justice at New York University Law School is a Soros funded public policy and law institute...

    Now that is funny. The anti-American George Soros, darling of the socialist left, is footing the bill and giving us the bull.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    This is a partisan hack job.
    And funded by an anti-American partisan hack, G. Soros. But the center does have a very nice, official sounding name. I suppose "The Center for Destroying Freedom and Liberty in our Lifetime" was already taken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    LOL:

    The Brennan Center for Justice at New York University Law School is a Soros funded public policy and law institute...

    Now that is funny. The anti-American George Soros, darling of the socialist left, is footing the bill and giving us the bull.
    I do not care if its the bearded ghost of freakin Karl Marx himself with a bomb in one hand and the red flag in the other...... you have NOT taken issue with anything factual in terms of the numbers related to voting and voter fraud.. Are you ready to do so or is this going to be more of the right wing cause celebre to win elections with a growing minority of supporters who will vote for the GOP?
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    What do you need to counter a solid study from what is probably the most respected non-partisan political procedure analysis organization in the world? I dunno... A lot... So far, you haven't come up with any evidence at all for your side of the issue....
    Perhaps you don't know that this is a bought and paid for operation.

    Brennan Center for Justice

    A quick look will tell you that this is a hyper partisan operation intended to advance democrats and fight republicans. But don't let me get in the way.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    We have a study by experts vs no documentation from you to back up your claims. All we have from you is the concession that it would be good to prevent people that you don't agree with you from voting.
    LOL. This is a bought and paid for hatchet job outfit. Soros provides the money.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    No kiddo. The people who don't have IDs that meet those requirements aren't felons and illegal aliens, they're college students, people who live in big cities and don't drive or move a lot, elderly people, etc. Heck, my grandmother couldn't vote if they passed one of those laws in her state. She hasn't driven in 20 years.
    Are you so heartless that you won't help her?

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    Forget about George Soros, the hated and feared boogey man who apparently induces dampness in the seats of trousers everywhere on the far right. Try the Bush Justice Department and argue with their statistics

    In 5-Year Effort, Scant Evidence of Voter Fraud - New York Times

    86 measley voter fraud convictions out of over 196 million who voted during the same time period. And what do we hear in response - George Soros!!!!!

    read for heavens sake - please do read

    Most of those charged have been Democrats, voting records show. Many of those charged by the Justice Department appear to have mistakenly filled out registration forms or misunderstood eligibility rules, a review of court records and interviews with prosecutors and defense lawyers show.

    In Miami, an assistant United States attorney said many cases there involved what were apparently mistakes by immigrants, not fraud.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    IMO, "illegals" should not exist, this problem should have been rectified a century ago....
    I say, make them all "legal"....they are here and here to stay....
    This is what I consider to be reality..
    Alabama passed a law that makes it very hard on employers who hire illegal aliens. They self deport. Many went to Tennessee. And our unemployment dropped in the counties that used to have the most illegals. As more states pass laws making it very hard on employers to hire illegals the number of illegal aliens will decrease.

    Perhaps your reality isn't.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Yup - an axiom is what you BELIEVE because it is what you want to BELIEVE because you BELEIVE it.



    The irony meter just broke into a zillion little pieces. Right wingers pushing more government power to infringe upon a right mentioned five different times in the US Constitution can only demonstrate a piddly tiny insignificant 86 vote fraud convictions out of over 196 million votes case and now have the untimitaged gall to use a line like "much ado about nothing"!!!!!

    Amazing. Truly amazing.
    You are aware that when Gore conceded the 2000 election the GOP decided not to push for prosecutions of vote fraud.

    Convictions really aren't a good argument

    in 1986, the democrats tried to derail the McClure-Volkmer firearm owners protection act by improperly and in violation of congressional rules attached a poison pill amendment known as the Hughes Amendment which effectively banned citizens from purchasing automatic weapons made after the date of the amendment (May 19, 1986). Hughes, an extremist democrat from NJ whined about lawfully owned machine guns even though THERE HAD ONLY BEEN ONE CONVICTION (indeed only one case) of a lawfully owned machine gun being used in a crime over a FIFTY YEAR PERIOD.

    so the dems decided it was necessary to ban-for millions of gun owners-sales of such weapons based on ONE conviction

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