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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Since another Presidential election is coming up, how about this topic again?

    Should people have to show their photo ID in order to vote in US presidential elections? Why or why not?
    Seeing how votes are anonymous and therefore no way of verifying who voted for who there is no way to tell if voter fraud has or has not happened.So we should do everything we can to verify that the person who is voting is who they say they are.So we should show a photo ID when voting.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I voted no, as the negative effect in disenfranchising voters is greater than any good from addressing a non-existent voter fraud problem.
    Anyone that doesn't possess a picture ID probably isn't registered to vote, anyway.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Yea right. I grew up in Chicago and saw it for years with my own eyes. I can honestly say, bull****.

    You can ignore the thousands of reports on voter fraud from around the country, but in the end your comment is the one that is baseless.
    That's great. Thousands of cases that accuse people of voter fraud are thrown out every year. The problem is exaggerated and the problem that does exist will just be transferred to fake IDs (it's funny how you ignored that inconvenient part of my post).

    As I said in my first post in this thread, if you want to require IDs, go ahead, but you sure as hell better make sure that people who don't have them get them.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    I'd say the Photo ID would be an attempt to create a new version of "de jure segregation laws".
    Last edited by Removable Mind; 12-16-11 at 01:04 AM.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    That's fine, but good luck getting all 50 states to pass that. Last I checked, the States did election law, not the feds.

    I don't have any problem with requiring a photo ID to vote, as long as a law requiring that also makes a photo ID easier to get. It's not like it's that hard
    , but if you're going to make a person's right to vote contingent on it, it should be extremely easy to get.
    How hard is it to get a photo ID?You walk into the tag agency with your birth certificate and SS card maybe even a utility bill for proof of address,fill out a form, pay 10-15 dollars and you got an ID card.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    That's great. Thousands of cases that accuse people of voter fraud are thrown out every year.
    And many are not, so what? Many cases of murder, assault and robbery are thrown out, so we should just not enforce laws because some are thrown out?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    The problem is exaggerated and the problem that does exist will just be transferred to fake IDs (it's funny how you ignored that inconvenient part of my post).
    Fake id's are much harder to produce now days, and usually by professionals. I don't see mass production of fake id's for voter fraud happening anytime soon. So yes I ignored it because it is baseless and a really dumb argument.

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    As I said in my first post in this thread, if you want to require IDs, go ahead, but you sure as hell better make sure that people who don't have them get them.
    If they seem to have no problem getting them to get food stamps etc. I see no problem.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Seeing how votes are anonymous and therefore no way of verifying who voted for who there is no way to tell if voter fraud has or has not happened.So we should do everything we can to verify that the person who is voting is who they say they are.So we should show a photo ID when voting.
    If the idea is to prevent non-citizens from voting, there's a problem. A legal resident (and in some states an illegal one) who's not a citizen can get a drivers license. He could then register and vote. Do you think we should put some kind of icon on all drivers licenses and state IDs that indicates whether or not someone is a citizen?

    I'm fine with a person from another country legally residing here getting a drivers license. In fact, I think that's safer. I just don't think a non-citizen has any business voting.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    How hard is it to get a photo ID?You walk into the tag agency with your birth certificate and SS card maybe even a utility bill for proof of address,fill out a form, pay 10-15 dollars and you got an ID card.
    Hell, might as well apply for a passport at the same time.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    If the idea is to prevent non-citizens from voting, there's a problem. A legal resident (and in some states an illegal one) who's not a citizen can get a drivers license. He could then register and vote. Do you think we should put some kind of icon on all drivers licenses and state IDs that indicates whether or not someone is a citizen?

    I'm fine with a person from another country legally residing here getting a drivers license. In fact, I think that's safer. I just don't think a non-citizen has any business voting.
    So it would change nothing as far as illegals. I mean they can register now, so what difference would it make?

    It would be to cut down on dead people voting, animals voting etc. Illegals are a separate matter.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Wow TD, you didn't waste anytime moving somewhere far away from the topic of Photo ID's. Good, boy.
    By your logic showing a ID is discrimination.So therefore requiring someone to show ID to purchase a firearm is discrimination in your eyes.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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