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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    It was not a "liberal" who signed amnesty into law in '86.
    Correct. From what I understand the compromise was supposed to come with assimilation which never happened. If I'm not mistaken Reagan considered it one of his biggest regrets.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Correct. From what I understand the compromise was supposed to come with assimilation which never happened. If I'm not mistaken Reagan considered it one of his biggest regrets.
    bigger than that arms sale to Iran incident?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    bigger than that arms sale to Iran incident?
    I don't remember hearing he regretted that. He was trying to get some diplomacy started and it was a critical step. I'm not a fan of that action, but also realize sometimes you have to deal with ****heads in life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I don't remember hearing he regretted that. He was trying to get some diplomacy started and it was a critical step. I'm not a fan of that action, but also realize sometimes you have to deal with ****heads in life.
    and you deal with it by supporting arms sales to the enemy?

    Wow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Just wow. At least be honest with yourself.
    You used the word RAMPANT in your own post and then tried to take me to task saying that was not your contention about voter fraud. You are making no sense on this point.

    You have a solution in search of a problem. You keep telling us that 86 people were convicted of voter fraud and use the Times article for proof. The article itslef says most of these happened for less than nefarious reasons. It also says that during the same period, over 196 million people voted. That is 86 out of 196,000,000. In statsitics we have a very technical term for this - INSIGNIFICANT AS TO BE ALMOST NONEXISTENT. Or think of it in another way since this is political. On the body politic, those 86 would not even be a tiny pimple on the ass of the body politic. But you are obsessed with it and are dishonestly trying to use this teeny tiny thing to insitutute a not needed system whic could have far reaching effects taking away peoples right to vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    and you deal with it by supporting arms sales to the enemy?

    Wow.
    To be fair they've upped the crazy since those days. Iran was a mere blip back then, same with Korea, China, etc. I'm not excusing anything just laying out the mindset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You used the word RAMPANT in your own post and then tried to take me to task saying that was not your contention about voter fraud. You are making no sense on this point.

    You have a solution in search of a problem. You keep telling us that 86 people were convicted of voter fraud and use the Times article for proof. The article itslef says most of these happened for less than nefarious reasons. It also says that during the same period, over 196 million people voted. That is 86 out of 196,000,000. In statsitics we have a very technical term for this - INSIGNIFICANT AS TO BE ALMOST NONEXISTENT. Or think of it in another way since this is political. On the body politic, those 86 would not even be a tiny pimple on the ass of the body politic. But you are obsessed with it and are dishonestly trying to use this teeny tiny thing to insitutute a not needed system whic could have far reaching effects taking away peoples right to vote.
    More partisan hackery. Yawn.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    To be fair they've upped the crazy since those days. Iran was a mere blip back then, same with Korea, China, etc. I'm not excusing anything just laying out the mindset.
    Yes, that was the mindset. Still selling arms to the enemy is a big deal.

    But, that's really an issue for another thread. We're in danger of derailing this one.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Yes, that was the mindset. Still selling arms to the enemy is a big deal.
    I do agree. The only point I would make is that the good intentions of supporting a South American democracy movement led to the bad result of arming some real jackholes. If anything it's a failing of U.S. foreign policy, something that it seems few modern presidents have been immune to.

    But, that's really an issue for another thread. We're in danger of derailing this one.
    Understood. In a way though it does speak to the vote, I do firmly believe that politicians should be accountable, we do that by keeping the vote honest and informed.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    More partisan hackery. Yawn.
    There is NOTHING partisan in that post. What is it exactly that you find partisan?
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