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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I find it disturbing people want illegals etc to vote with impunity.

    Then again we all know who the majority of voter fraud charges have been leveled against.

    The Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), the radical left-wing activist group, was convicted in a massive voter-fraud conspiracy. It has been committing identify theft for decades. VADUM: Obama's favorite gangsters convicted again - Washington Times

    The plea offer made to McInerney, a Democrat, is based, in part, on information compiled by State Police showing McInerney may have helped forge absentee ballots in previous campaigns dating to at least 2007.

    McInerney, 47, is a former state Assembly worker who has been a Democratic committeeman in Troy for years. He was appointed to the clerk’s position by the City Council when Democrats took control of the Troy council in January 2008.
    Dem official pleads guilty in NY election fraud investigation | RedState

    about 120 people have been charged and 86 convicted as of last year. Most of those charged have been Democrats, voting records show. In 5-Year Effort, Scant Evidence of Voter Fraud - New York Times

    Sorry, no dice.
    Interesting..
    So, Blackdog, are you trying to say that the liberals are committing all the crimes, and the conservatives, none ?
    And you want people to believe this ?
    IMO, "illegals" should not exist, this problem should have been rectified a century ago....
    I say, make them all "legal"....they are here and here to stay....
    This is what I consider to be reality..

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    It was not a "liberal" who signed amnesty into law in '86.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    It was not a "liberal" who signed amnesty into law in '86.
    That's true. You'd be hard pressed to find evidence that either side really wants to stop this type of immigration.
    Last edited by Boo Radley; 12-22-11 at 12:52 PM.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Interesting..
    So, Blackdog, are you trying to say that the liberals are committing all the crimes, and the conservatives, none ?
    And you want people to believe this ?
    Yep that's exactly what I said, lol...

    Then again we all know who the majority of voter fraud charges have been leveled against. - Blackdog

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    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    IMO, "illegals" should not exist, this problem should have been rectified a century ago....
    I say, make them all "legal"....they are here and here to stay....
    I say throw them out, period. They are criminals and came here illegally. I wish I could just ignore the law, but it does not work that way.

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    This is what I consider to be reality..
    Well I hope it works for you.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That's true. You'd be hard pressed to find evidence that either side really wants to stop this type of immigration.
    Sad but true. Why I am not a member of either party, they both suck.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
    Quote Originally Posted by Absentglare View Post
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Sad but true. Why I am not a member of either party, they both suck.
    True enough, but it might be helpfup to ask why neither will address this?

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog
    Most states like Indiana offer free photo id's to those who can't afford them. Still no excuse.
    What if you don't have an ID and you're not 'poor enough' to qualify for a free ID?

    One should not have to pay to vote in the United States of America.
    (not to mention the cost of obtaining a birth certificate, marriage license, passport, divorce record or other documents in order to get the ID)

    Voter ID nothing more than a tax to vote (for those that don't have ID), which was rendered unconstitutional by the 24th amendment.


    There is no problem to combat here and voter suppression goes much further than voter ID. Some are...

    ...restrictions on groups and their members doing voter registration drives

    ...eliminated same-day registration in Maine and Ohio

    ...rolling back early voting options

    ...revoking the rights of former felons to regain their right to vote in Florida and Iowa


    We should be working to encourage voting. Making it easier. Not erecting unnecessary burdens.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    True enough, but it might be helpfup to ask why neither will address this?
    probably because their wealthy donors like the cheap labor.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    True enough, but it might be helpfup to ask why neither will address this?
    I am not certain what needs to be addressed? I thought it was good at the time. It in the long run was not enforced, almost ignored.

    I did not agree with the amnesty, but I liked President Reagan, so I lived with it. I mean it had some great potential...

    required employers to attest to their employees' immigration status.
    made it illegal to knowingly hire or recruit unauthorized immigrants.
    granted amnesty to certain seasonal agricultural illegal immigrants.

    Seemed like a good compromise to me.

    Problems were caused though. Hispanic looking workers were discriminated against, so in the end it did address the real problem of illegal immigration at the correct level, but it also created a more serious problem, discrimination.

    People seem to not have any real problem with legal immigration, at least I don't. If you come here legally awesome, welcome to the US and all that. If you come here illegally, you should be jailed and deported, period.

    So I am not certain what part you are asking about?
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
    Quote Originally Posted by Absentglare View Post
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by BWG View Post
    What if you don't have an ID and you're not 'poor enough' to qualify for a free ID?
    Then you are a lazy **** that probably does not understand the importance of exorcising your public duty.

    Quote Originally Posted by BWG View Post
    One should not have to pay to vote in the United States of America.
    (not to mention the cost of obtaining a birth certificate, marriage license, passport, divorce record or other documents in order to get the ID)
    You need ID to get services turned on, rent a car, by cigarettes etc. Having no ID is not an excuse.

    Quote Originally Posted by BWG View Post
    Voter ID nothing more than a tax to vote (for those that don't have ID), which was rendered unconstitutional by the 24th amendment.

    There is no problem to combat here and voter suppression goes much further than voter ID. Some are...

    ...restrictions on groups and their members doing voter registration drives

    ...eliminated same-day registration in Maine and Ohio

    ...rolling back early voting options

    ...revoking the rights of former felons to regain their right to vote in Florida and Iowa

    We should be working to encourage voting. Making it easier. Not erecting unnecessary burdens.
    And yet the SCOTUS said it is NOT unconstitutional. So I will again say after the mountain of evidence you ignored, I disagree.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
    Quote Originally Posted by Absentglare View Post
    You can successfully wipe your ass with toilet paper, that doesn't mean that you should.

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