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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Do I really have to? Their own words are better than anything anyone else could say.
    Do whatever you want. So far we have a study by experts who say 5 million voters could be disenfranchised vs. nothing from you to refute it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Do whatever you want. So far we have a study by experts who say 5 million voters could be disenfranchised vs. nothing from you to refute it.
    So far you have a study based on speculation and it even contradicts itself. What more do you need?
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    So far you have a study based on speculation and it even contradicts itself. What more do you need?
    How about a clear record of significant voter fraud which merits this sort of big government statist action to infringe upon persons Constitutional rights? That would be good for a start which establishes a reason for these actions in the first place.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    So far you have a study based on speculation and it even contradicts itself. What more do you need?
    What do you need to counter a solid study from what is probably the most respected non-partisan political procedure analysis organization in the world? I dunno... A lot... So far, you haven't come up with any evidence at all for your side of the issue....

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    How about a clear record of significant voter fraud which merits this sort of big government statist action to infringe upon persons Constitutional rights? That would be good for a start which establishes a reason for these actions in the first place.
    How about 86 convictions in 5 years? So we know it is happening? And requiring an id is about as statist as requiring id to buy smokes. Nice try again at the "your a conservative and should believe this." Another lame attempt because the "study" as you want to call it is partisan crap and highly flawed, contradictory speculation at best.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    No one should be allowed to vote unless they possess photo I.D. proclaiming:

    "I acknowledge that I am yet another pathetic dupe of a small minority of upper class nabobs who control both the Democratic and Republican parties and who direct the elected public officials of either party to serve upper class nabob interests over the interests of the vast majority of middle class citizens who voted said public officials into office. Like some duckspeaking twit out of Orwell's 1984, I willfully engage in the reflexive doublethink exercise of recognizing that I live in a one-party plutocracy masquerading as a two-party republic, while at the same time denying it. Then I step into the voting booth and pretend that things are not really the way they are."
    It's like you're dreaming of Gorgonzola when it's clearly Brie time, baby. Step into my office.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    What do you need to counter a solid study from what is probably the most respected non-partisan political procedure analysis organization in the world? I dunno... A lot... So far, you haven't come up with any evidence at all for your side of the issue....
    Wow it is amazing how all of you have ignored this...

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1060049114

    Again your own words are the best evidence.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    How about 86 convictions in 5 years? So we know it is happening? And requiring an id is about as statist as requiring id to buy smokes. Nice try again at the "your a conservative and should believe this." Another lame attempt because the "study" as you want to call it is partisan crap and highly flawed, contradictory speculation at best.
    86 convictions in five years?!?!?!? And the support for that is found where... I seem to have missed in in the post.

    And that would be 86 out of how many votes cast in those same five years?
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    86 convictions in five years?!?!?!? And the support for that is found where... I seem to have missed in in the post.
    Yes you missed it. Theplaydrive posted it. Look it up.

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    And that would be 86 out of how many votes cast in those same five years?
    Well there were only 2 Federal elections in that span, and the report as I pointed out listed no details, just conviction rate. It did not include numbers from local or state elections either.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Yes you missed it. Theplaydrive posted it. Look it up.



    Well there were only 2 Federal elections in that span, and the report as I pointed out listed no details, just conviction rate. It did not include numbers from local or state elections either.
    is this what you mean?

    REPORT: From Poll Taxes To Voter ID Laws: A Short History of Conservative Voter Suppression | ThinkProgress

    And the Bush administration’s five-year national “war on voter fraud” resulted in only 86 convictions of illegal voting out of more than 196 million votes cast.
    And no details are provided. If you have any I would certainly welcome reading them to determine what constituted these 86 convictions out of almost 200 million votes.

    Somebody should do the match to find out the percentage there to measure "this serious problem'. What a bad joke!
    Last edited by haymarket; 12-22-11 at 12:13 AM.
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