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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    That sounds kind of complicated, technical, and probably expensive.

    Why don't we just dip our finger into indelible ink after casting a ballot? That way, anyone with a purple finger would be ineligible to vote, and no one could vote twice. It seems like I've seen that idea put into place somewhere, haven't you?

    But, there is no reason not to have a photo ID requirement as well.
    I'm in favor of that actually. Wouldn't be a bad idea in the least.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

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    You know what? Playdrive, I don't even know why I bother.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    I have no problem with a Federal law requiring all Americans show a government issued picture ID, in order to vote.

    However, the cost of such an ID must be paid for by the govt.
    They don't pay for you passport.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    They don't pay for you passport.
    I don't have a constitutional right to a vacation in Paris.

    why would you want to put a financial burden upon the right to vote? perhaps to keep the poor from voting?

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    I don't have a constitutional right to a vacation in Paris.

    why would you want to put a financial burden upon the right to vote? perhaps to keep the poor from voting?
    They put financial burdens on the right to license a firearm don't they? If someone violates your 1st amendment right, you have to hire an attorney to represent you. And aren't you already using an ID for many other purposes?
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    They put financial burdens on the right to license a firearm don't they? If someone violates your 1st amendment right, you have to hire an attorney to represent you. And aren't you already using an ID for many other purposes?
    Bolded is exactly the point. The only people who may not have any form of photo ID are those "living off the grid" paying cash for all transactions, using little in the way of utilities, subsistence hunting/farming, even then if they use a bank or any other form of financial service they still would have to maintain some form of identification. I don't see how anyone could survive as an adult without at least a basic photo ID, so asking them to show it to vote is not really any big deal.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    I don't see the big conundrum of simply providing a photo ID for something as important as voting.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I don't see the big conundrum of simply providing a photo ID for something as important as voting.
    as long as govt. fronts the cost..or reimburses it.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    There is no evidence that voter fraud of this kind (showing up claiming to be someone you are not) is becoming even a minuscule threat to our voting system. Conservatives and Libertarians should agree that there should be no restrictions on people's fundamental rights (and which right is more fundamental than voting) unless there is some very good reason for it. Until it becomes apparent that voter fraud, and not political corruption, is the objective behind these laws, I wholly oppose them.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Bolded is exactly the point. The only people who may not have any form of photo ID are those "living off the grid" paying cash for all transactions, using little in the way of utilities, subsistence hunting/farming, even then if they use a bank or any other form of financial service they still would have to maintain some form of identification. I don't see how anyone could survive as an adult without at least a basic photo ID, so asking them to show it to vote is not really any big deal.
    I'd be willing to bet that very few such people actually exist, and fewer still vote. The cost to the state/federal government to provide IDs would be miniscule. If it cost a million bucks, that's 33 cents per person. I think we can afford that.

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