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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Voting is a constitutional right, boarding a plane is not.
    Owning a firearm is a constitutional right, yet I have to fill out a government questionnaire, pass a background check and show a photo ID, to purchase one.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    My grandpa doesn't have a drivers license or valid photo ID... his passport is expired. He is 80 and physically disabled. Why in God's name do you not him to vote?
    Then I don't see him getting out to vote.

    The way that I understand it the voter ID bit is only for when you show up at the voting area. I doubt that it would apply to those that vote via mail.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Owning a firearm is a constitutional right, yet I have to fill out a government questionnaire, pass a background check and show a photo ID, to purchase one.
    The risks of a firearm going to the wrong person have far more severe consequences than a vote going to the wrong person.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    The risks of a firearm going to the wrong person have far more severe consequences than a vote going to the wrong person.
    That wasn't the reasoning.
    The reasoning was that it is a Constitutional right, although even that is debatable, but none the less, so is firearm ownership.

    I disagree that a vote going to the wrong person is a lesser evil.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    The risks of a firearm going to the wrong person have far more severe consequences than a vote going to the wrong person.
    So? A right is a right is a right. They are ALL important and should be held to the same standards.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    While voter fraud isn't a huge problem, it sounds really damn desperate and largely unbelievable when people say, "it's a difficult or disenfranchising burden."
    The overwhelming, vast majority of people, already have a state issued photo ID.
    It's not the most extreme burden, but I'm not a fan of restricting rights unless a significant problem becomes apparent that requires a restriction Voter fraud in federal elections is negligible with less than 86 people being convicted of it in five years. That's not worth restricting rights even further, particularly when it will affect some people.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    So? A right is a right is a right. They are ALL important and should be held to the same standards.
    Actually, that's not true. Each right is different and must be restricted in different ways. It makes zero sense to treat freedom of speech the same way you would treat the right to bear arms. Zero sense.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    It's not the most extreme burden, but I'm not a fan of restricting rights unless a significant problem becomes apparent that requires a restriction Voter fraud in federal elections is negligible with less than 86 people being convicted of it in five years. That's not worth restricting rights even further, particularly when it will affect some people.
    The amount of people it will negatively effect, is about the same as the amount of people that get convicted of voter fraud.
    It's a ridiculous charge, that getting an ID is a hardship.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    It's not the most extreme burden, but I'm not a fan of restricting rights unless a significant problem becomes apparent that requires a restriction Voter fraud in federal elections is negligible with less than 86 people being convicted of it in five years. That's not worth restricting rights even further, particularly when it will affect some people.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Actually, that's not true. Each right is different and must be restricted in different ways. It makes zero sense to treat freedom of speech the same way you would treat the right to bear arms. Zero sense.
    I don't agree. You say that requireing ID to get a gun, a constitutional right, is a good thing because guns can kill. Would you apply the same logic to freedom of speech even though it can kill also?

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