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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Well, that's certainly a new one -- this practice still going on today, is it?

    I'd also be interested in your explanation of how multiple votes by the same person would be accomplished today.
    I don't even know why I bother with you. Okay, since you didn't make the connection between what happened without a photo ID at the time I'll try once more to make things a little easier. If someone buses in "community organizers" with fake names and socials it is a consensual version of the same practice a "hollow vote" if you will, and yes, it does happen.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    The one's I posted that do not have them. The elderly that can barely afford medication...the working poor in urban areas. They don't always have cars. They don't always have money to go pay for a license to practice their right to vote.
    so the states would have to foot the bill for those very few who can't afford a few bucks for an ID. To fail to do so could be construed as a "poll tax".

    The cost could mount into tens or even hundreds of dollars.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I voted no, as the negative effect in disenfranchising voters is greater than any good from addressing a non-existent voter fraud problem.
    No voting fraud? Google "ACORN" or read this article....

    Indiana Democratic Party Head Resigns As Fraud Probe Heats Up | Fox News



    The alleged forgeries have raised the question whether the Obama campaign actually filed the necessary number of signatures, 500 from the county, to get on the state's primary ballot. The 534 signatures that were certified to place Obama's name in contention, were never challenged. 704 signatures were certified for Clinton, according to state elections officials. An estimated 150 of the signatures on both petitions may be fakes, leaving open the possibility that, in at least President Obama's case, the number of legal signatures that were required to get on the ballot was not reached.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    No it doesn't. You have to prove you have the right by showing that you are indeed the person exercising the right. The rest of the definition is irrelevant which is why I didn't mention it, if it was said that people had to have property or drive their own vehicle to the polling place or pay a poll tax you would have a point, since all of those have been struck down properly by constitutional amendment there is no discussion necessary. ID is not property, it is not your property rather it is a government issued identification that you pay for which is why it is a felony to use one for the purposes of misrepresentation.
    There are a handful of cases with voting fruad. There are millions of Americans without the identification required that state laws are passing. You do the math. It comes across as a ridiculous bill that does nothing but either create some sort of hardship on some individuals or cause them not to vote...which is what Republicans want.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by conservativeguy View Post
    No voting fraud? Google "ACORN" or read this article....

    Indiana Democratic Party Head Resigns As Fraud Probe Heats Up | Fox News
    Petitions are not voting fraud.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    so the states would have to foot the bill for those very few who can't afford a few bucks for an ID. To fail to do so could be construed as a "poll tax".

    The cost could mount into tens or even hundreds of dollars.
    I would be fine with that. I mentioned earlier I would be fine with putting photos on voter registration cards. That is not what they are proposing.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Petitions are not voting fraud.
    They are supposed to be a representation of voters, fraudulent names are to be struck if found. This is not the only incident.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    They are supposed to be a representation of voters, fraudulent names are to be struck if found. This is not the only incident.
    I'm sure it's not..petitions are only a barrier to prevent 40 amendments or 80 people from running on a ballot. They have no significance beyond that. Obama apparently was popular enough in Indiania to beat McCain.

    I'm sorry...in no way does that make Obama "not legitimate" or whatever fantasy you Republicans have. He won one of the biggest presidential victories in in decades.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    I'm sure it's not..petitions are only a barrier to prevent 40 amendments or 80 people from running on a ballot. They have no significance beyond that. Obama apparently was popular enough in Indiania to beat McCain.

    I'm sorry...in no way does that make Obama "not legitimate" or whatever fantasy you Republicans have. He won one of the biggest presidential victories in in decades.
    Where did I say anything about Obama here? The McCain thing, I'll say this: He wasn't as popular among conservatives as people would think and wasn't even all that impressive to moderates, the only reason most of us voted for him was to try to suffer a less bad president(not to put the right one in, didn't exist). I held my nose for McCain and I don't think there was all that much fraud resulting in an Obama win, there were plenty of suspect state and local elections the period before but I would say that the '08 elections were somewhat "clean". McCain sucked.

    As to the petition argument, well, that isn't as serious but still counts. The problem I have is when "mickey mouse" and the family dog were registered or at least attemtped for a vote. There are many issues that need to be tightened up, and an ID solves at least some of it.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Where did I say anything about Obama here? The McCain thing, I'll say this: He wasn't as popular among conservatives as people would think and wasn't even all that impressive to moderates, the only reason most of us voted for him was to try to suffer a less bad president(not to put the right one in, didn't exist). I held my nose for McCain and I don't think there was all that much fraud resulting in an Obama win, there were plenty of suspect state and local elections the period before but I would say that the '08 elections were somewhat "clean". McCain sucked.

    As to the petition argument, well, that isn't as serious but still counts. The problem I have is when "mickey mouse" and the family dog were registered or at least attemtped for a vote. There are many issues that need to be tightened up, and an ID solves at least some of it.
    Sure it is a problem. I think I mentioned it in Grims thread...in all honesty I think the RNC and DNC have every incentive for these ridiculous tough requirements to get on a ballot...you pretty much need the money and organization of either party to get on ballots in all the states so I'm not entirely bothered by this or other petition "scandals".

    As for the voter ID...it wouldn't of solved this. As for the "Micky Mouse" and dog names...those names were never registered they were denied.

    I'll tell you what..if you can go and register a fake name and photocopy and post that fake registered name I'll conceed.
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