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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    [...] You have to prove you have the right by showing that you are indeed the person exercising the right. [...]
    Not really. Some type of identification is normally needed in order to register to vote (mainly to put you in the proper voting district). Identifying yourself as the person who registered is somewhat redundant (realistically, how many people do you think are going to try to assume someone else's identity in order to cast their vote? And how are they to know the person they are trying to impersonate is actually registered?).

    Lastly, the country is founded on the principle of anonymity; having to identify yourself to exercise a natural right doesn't really sound patriotic, does it?

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    [...] (mickey mouse has voted at one time) [...]
    That level of misinformation is rather sad.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    This may surprise you but many of the elderly, the poor, students, and minorities do not have a photo ID.

    What purpose does increasing hardship on some to vote serve?
    Most students have a photo ID. They have a student ID.

    And I would have no issue with allowing those who cannot legitimately afford an ID card (despite the fee being only about $10-$15), to have their fee waived by just showing that they cannot afford it. If you can take the time to go out and vote, then you should also be able to take the time to get an ID card too.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    That level of misinformation is rather sad.
    It's true, go ahead and look it up. I gave you the hint that google has plenty of great stuff out there if you want to be informed.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Not really. Some type of identification is normally needed in order to register to vote (mainly to put you in the proper voting district). Identifying yourself as the person who registered is somewhat redundant (realistically, how many people do you think are going to try to assume someone else's identity in order to cast their vote? And how are they to know the person they are trying to impersonate is actually registered?).

    Lastly, the country is founded on the principle of anonymity; having to identify yourself to exercise a natural right doesn't really sound patriotic, does it?
    Let's imagine you are part of the committee setting up a brand new country and it comes time to establish the voting laws.

    Elmer sez: "Seems reasonable that a person oughta provide a picture ID to make sure they are who they say".

    Vern sez: "Nah, Let's just have 'em show a water bill stub instead. That'll be good enough."

    (You going to side with Elmer or Vern?)





    Good lordy, this isn't a tough issue.....


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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Who is being disenfranchised? Who, tell me whom? Tell who can't get an ID.
    I already did.

    Dead people.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cole View Post
    Let's imagine you are part of the committee setting up a brand new country and it comes time to establish the voting laws.

    Elmer sez: "Seems reasonable that a person oughta provide a picture ID to make sure they are who they say".

    Vern sez: "Nah, Let's just have 'em show a water bill stub instead. That'll be good enough."

    (You going to side with Elmer or Vern?)





    Good lordy, this isn't a tough issue.....
    Exactly. I'll say this, during the time of Edgar Allen Poe there was an issue of people waiting outside of drinking establishments for the drunks to exit so that they could attack them to steal voter cards. Poe himself was found incoherent and in need of immediate attention, one theory is that he was a victim of cooping, or a "forced vote". Sometimes cooping was done using the same victim multiple times. Same principle, no photo ID requirement means all one would need is some kind of "official" statement with a name matching a voter roll.

    No way to commit fraud there.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cole, replying to Karl View Post
    [...] Elmer sez: "Seems reasonable that a person oughta provide a picture ID to make sure they are who they say". [...]
    Why does Elmer want to know who people are? Is it not sufficient that they are citizens?

    Since Elmer obviously likes to have everyone properly identified (named), I bet he would like to register guns as well. . . . .

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Exactly. I'll say this, during the time of Edgar Allen Poe there was an issue of people waiting outside of drinking establishments for the drunks to exit so that they could attack them to steal voter cards. Poe himself was found incoherent and in need of immediate attention, one theory is that he was a victim of cooping, or a "forced vote". Sometimes cooping was done using the same victim multiple times. Same principle, no photo ID requirement means all one would need is some kind of "official" statement with a name matching a voter roll.

    No way to commit fraud there.
    Well, that's certainly a new one -- this practice still going on today, is it?

    I'd also be interested in your explanation of how multiple votes by the same person would be accomplished today.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Who is being disenfranchised? Who, tell me whom? Tell who can't get an ID.
    The one's I posted that do not have them. The elderly that can barely afford medication...the working poor in urban areas. They don't always have cars. They don't always have money to go pay for a license to practice their right to vote.
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