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As long as state ID's can be obtained for free or a low cost and at more locations than the DMV, I would have no problem with that requirement. They cost $44.50 here and at that rate would be prohibitive for low income, student and elderly voters. Our voter registration forms, do not require a state ID. The last four digits of the social security number are sufficient. Lacking those there is a list of other acceptable forms of ID.
Full disclosure, we vote by mail in Oregon, since 2000. Out of thousands of investigations, only nine prosecutions have occurred.
Vote fraud is extremely rare and always unacceptable | OregonLive.com
Yes, an editorial.
Here is an article regarding recent accusations of voter fraud and the findings.
Multnomah County GOP continues to raise charges of voter fraud | OregonLive.com
The Republican Party paid to recount 8,247 ballots in three scattered precincts and found that the only difference from the original count was that Kitzhaber picked up one more vote.
It's all about power...
Push to register felons to vote could aid Obama - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27023034/#.Tut4PNTOwrk
Last edited by Black Dog; 12-16-11 at 11:57 AM.
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In the case of someone who has no ID and has evidence they can't afford one, the State should provide one without cost. Believe most states already provide "non-driving" photo IDs at the DMV. Wouldn't be much stress on the budget to make those free for the indigent.
Last edited by OhIsee.Then; 12-16-11 at 12:40 PM. Reason: added suggestion
No...your argument is just irrational. You are stating that it's fine to basically disenfranchise millions of voters in order to stop 84 cases in 5 years of voter fraud. What next, are we going to invade Chile because someone died from a bad Chilean farm raised Salmon? You guys seem to be so blaise about making the voting process harder for millions of Americans...typically those that are worse off for less voter fraud votes needed to elect a highchool class President.That has nothing to do with it. It is about voter fraud. As I already pointed out it is not unconstitutional according to 2 federal courts now. So you have no argument.
Really...because last I checked voter fraud is a felony and he would probably no longer be the head of the DNC!Well most voter fraud has been found to be on the Democratic party's head, you do the math.
It's all about power...
Push to register felons to vote could aid Obama -
Expanding voting rights has nothing to do with restricting them. I'm glad you admit the issue is power though instead of concerns about voting fraud.
“Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone.” John Maynard Keynes
Disenfranchise - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary If you read the meaning it is simply to DENY a right. Requiring someone to prove that they are the proper person to exercise the right and not a family pet, dead person, made up name(mickey mouse has voted at one time), or stolen identity is NOT disenfranchisement and frankly every politician and other public political figure misusing the term for political reasons should be censured, fined, and jailed.
Legal citizens over 18 years of age already have the vote regardless of sex, religion, and race with the only restrictions being in some states felons or the mentally unfit so where do you expand to? Unless you mean the dead, Mickey Mouse, etc.Expanding voting rights has nothing to do with restricting them.
Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.