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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    But how do they benefit from fraud of only (less than) 86 people in 5 years commit it? LOL.
    You arent reading. You keep missing the illegal votes in Texas, New Mexico, Illinois, FLorida...etc etc etc. Of course...you dont WANT to see it. 'Lol'

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    You arent reading. You keep missing the illegal votes in Texas, New Mexico, Illinois, FLorida...etc etc etc. Of course...you dont WANT to see it. 'Lol'
    What do you mean, I'm not reading? LESS THAN 86 PEOPLE CONVICTED IN 5 YEARS. LOL. So much benefit, I can hardly handle myself.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    What do you mean, I'm not reading? LESS THAN 86 PEOPLE CONVICTED IN 5 YEARS. LOL. So much benefit, I can hardly handle myself.
    I cited articles showing numerous instances of illegal votes. You honestly believe every illegal vote cast (including the dead woman in Texas that come back from the other side to cast her ballot) is being prosecuted and arrested? Put an arrest behind every illegal vote and see what happens to those numbers. Put a separate arrest behind the 10 poll workers in Florida who were casting ballots for numerous other people and see what happens. You know why I believe people are opposed to the simple act of showing who you are and what I think about the stand of those who fight to defend fraud...ooops...I mean are against showing an ID card for buying smokes...dangit...I mean voting.

    Dead horse sufficiently beat.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    You haven't shown any reason why ID should be required. Most "fraud" issues are found out to be mistakes and less than 86 people in 5 years commit it.
    Only 2 federal elections happened within that period. One of them was not even for president as it was midterm. The first year was not even included. So I would say that is nothing but an opinion on your part.

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    That's not a significant problem. New requirements that make it more difficult to vote should only be added when an actual problem is apparent.
    It is a problem and should be addressed. Fortunately it is already being done in some states with more jumping in.

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    86 people in 5 years (most of which were mistakes) is not an actual problem.
    Again how many were affected by the fraud? If even one persons vote was changed or fraudulent, it's a problem.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I cited articles showing numerous instances of illegal votes. You honestly believe every illegal vote cast (including the dead woman in Texas that come back from the other side to cast her ballot) is being prosecuted and arrested? Put an arrest behind every illegal vote and see what happens to those numbers. Put a separate arrest behind the 10 poll workers in Florida who were casting ballots for numerous other people and see what happens. You know why I believe people are opposed to the simple act of showing who you are and what I think about the stand of those who fight to defend fraud...ooops...I mean are against showing an ID card for buying smokes...dangit...I mean voting.

    Dead horse sufficiently beat.
    You've posted "instances" and I've posted actual convictions. Apparently, the federal government doesn't agree with your lawyer skillz. When you can actually demonstrate that the problem is more than 86 people in 5 years and that the courts were totally wrong, then you've got nothing. Sorry buddy.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    You've posted "instances" and I've posted actual convictions. Apparently, the federal government doesn't agree with your lawyer skillz. When you can actually demonstrate that the problem is more than 86 people in 5 years and that the courts were totally wrong, then you've got nothing. Sorry buddy.
    Never pretended to be a lawyer...but you ARE correct...I posted actual instances that PROVE there are disgusting scumbags out there that vote illegally. And they always seem to be...what party again? Oh yeah. cus thats the way uh huh uh huh you LIKE it...uh huh...

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    So I don't care if a homeless crackhead gets to vote or not, I wonder how many of those actually registered to vote? Funny how they leave that out. If you want to vote get an ID.
    Why not provide an ID card for voting? Because the issue isn't "voter fraud" it's limiting votes from groups that normally don't vote Republican. Also...all elderly are not homeless crackheads. All Minorities are not homeless crackheads. All low income individuals are not crack heads.
    So far still no reason. The being unconstitutional has already been beaten on every front, so saying people will be disfranchised will not cut it.
    Of course...power through any means for conservative eh?
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    So you are saying that all those people that want to vote and get ID card would be better served by having them and we manage to help people out ALONG with ensuring they are legally able to cast votes. Good points!
    My point is those people not have ID. If we're going to require voter ID then make a damn voter ID card with a picture. Obviously voter fraud is not the issue because a voter ID card with a pic would solve any problems with disenfranchisement.
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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Only 2 federal elections happened within that period. One of them was not even for president as it was midterm. The first year was not even included. So I would say that is nothing but an opinion on your part.
    Uhhh...how is it an opinion? I just relayed what the government said.

    It is a problem and should be addressed. Fortunately it is already being done in some states with more jumping in.
    I don't support restrictions on rights for negligible problems. If someone thinks I should support restricting rights, then they should demonstrate a significant problem. That hasn't been demonstrated.

    Again how many were affected by the fraud? If even one persons vote was changed or fraudulent, it's a problem.
    An incredibly small problem that you haven't shown will be fixed by requiring IDs.

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    Re: Photo ID to vote?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Never pretended to be a lawyer...but you ARE correct...I posted actual instances that PROVE there are disgusting scumbags out there that vote illegally. And they always seem to be...what party again? Oh yeah. cus thats the way uh huh uh huh you LIKE it...uh huh...
    Yeah, but I didn't disagree with your instances. I just said that less than 86 people were convicted which means that I agree there are people out there who commit fraud. LOL. But until you demonstrate that there is a significant problem, I don't care.

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