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    Re: Is allowing a temporary tax cut to expire raising taxes

    If its not, then, what is it ??
    Lets not be so obtuse.
    Its a small part of the problem, obviously, the tax rates should be effective and fair.....I do not know for certain that this is the case..
    The greater problem is that too much money has left our nation and is now in the hands of the Chinese, the Mexicans, and the OPEC nations.
    This, we must work on, both liberals and conservatives.

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    Re: Is allowing a temporary tax cut to expire raising taxes

    If one has to pay more than they did the previous year, it is a tax increase.
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    Re: Is allowing a temporary tax cut to expire raising taxes

    I don't see it as a tax increase - I saw the tax cut as temporary only. I never expected taxes to always and forever more to stay so low, especially given the amount of misuse of tax revenue by our government both at the state and federal level. I also do not expect the current federal government to curb it's irresponsible spending no matter what political rhetoric or political party is pushing it. History shows over the past 3 to 4 decades that our government increases spending. Once our fed shows it can be responsible, I may change my mind - however I fully expect taxes to be raised at some point but the expiration of the tax cut is not it. There's more coming... it's just a matter of how it's hidden from the public under what guise of some program or alleged benefit or new un needed services.
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    Re: Is allowing a temporary tax cut to expire raising taxes

    They are in favor of raising taxes back to their normal levels. So, yes it is a tax increase, but no at the same time because the tax cuts were only temp.
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    Re: Is allowing a temporary tax cut to expire raising taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    They are in favor of raising taxes back to their normal levels. So, yes it is a tax increase, but no at the same time because the tax cuts were only temp.
    With how much Bush-hate that went around I'm surprised all of those Bush-haters aren't in full support of it.

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    Re: Is allowing a temporary tax cut to expire raising taxes

    No, it's not raising taxes.

    I am not sure if this is the time to let the cuts expire, however, as I'd be afraid that it would push us into a double-dip recession. Congress and Bush just ****ed up by lower taxes and spending too much during normal times instead of taxing higher and spending less (aka saving for recession when they needed it).
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    Re: Is allowing a temporary tax cut to expire raising taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    No, it's not raising taxes.

    Then by the same logic, taxes were never lowered either then.


    I am not sure if this is the time to let the cuts expire, however, as I'd be afraid that it would push us into a double-dip recession. Congress and Bush just ****ed up by lower taxes and spending too much during normal times instead of taxing higher and spending less (aka saving for recession when they needed it).


    I think that this is miniscule compared to the housing loans, NINJA loans, and the crash of the markets.
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    Re: Is allowing a temporary tax cut to expire raising taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    With how much Bush-hate that went around I'm surprised all of those Bush-haters aren't in full support of it.

    I guess it was only part-time hatred
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    Re: Is allowing a temporary tax cut to expire raising taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    This just goes to show how silly our political discussions have become.

    Raising taxes after lowering them by the same amount may be a tax increase, but it's not an increase in the level of taxation in the long term. The discussion should be about how high or low taxes should be NOW, not whether it's going up or down or whatever. The idea that we should never ever raise a tax rate, even if some other tax goes down or has gone down in the past, is simplistic Norquistian idiocy.
    Effectively it's an increase, because that's all that matters. You name it a flying pig if you want to, because that doesn't cost me anything.
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    Re: Is allowing a temporary tax cut to expire raising taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Then by the same logic, taxes were never lowered either then.
    Well, they were temporarily lowered. If Bush had temporarily raised taxes, and Obama let them lapse, do you think anyone would be here cheering Obama saying he lowered taxes?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I think that this is miniscule compared to the housing loans, NINJA loans, and the crash of the markets.
    Possibly. I've read that it may not be a great idea to end them, but I am always open to other suggestion.
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