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    Re: Is Intolerance Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Or, it's something else entirely. Tbh, my ideology is changing with my experiences, and this is just another one of those minor bumps in the road I drive over. I'll impart some of my frustration. I was told I was intolerant for being of an opposing opinion regarding "X". "Intolerance" was used with a negative connotation. So, I argue, mentally, with this hypothetical person. "Is intolerance wrong," I ask him. He says it is, yet I remind him of whether he talks in absolutes or not. He reasons that intolerance is neither 100% right or wrong. I then inquire with, "how, then, do you decide which intolerance is wrong?" He retorts with, "because I say so, and I've made up my mind that it's wrong to be intolerant of 'X'." Now here is where you understand my frustration. I ask, "so you believe it is wrong based on your opinion? An opinion is a belief that rests on grounds insufficient to produce certainty." He retorts that society, "more people", agree with him. He makes references to philosophical fragments such as equality, love, hate, etc. The problem, all along, is not the issue of "X", but the existence of opinions. Beliefs. People grab hold of them, and insult, harm, and kill people over them. Obviously, if I decide to try to proceed without opinions, it will for sure be an endeavor against every person here because everyone here clings to many beliefs/opinions. It is simply frustrating how either number of people or might of power decides what is and isn't right. You do not see machines develop opinions and squabble amongst themselves. Eh, it is just a lot of questions with no certain answers.
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    Re: Is Intolerance Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    This is a simple question:

    Is intolerance wrong?

    The question arises because people have a tendency to connote intolerance with something negative.
    Depends on what you are not tolerant of.Not being tolerant of criminals is not a bad thing. Being intolerant of deviant behavior is not a bad thing.Being intolerant of someone's race or religion is a bad thing.I do find it amusing that people who piss bitch and moan about others being intolerant are just as or more intolerant than the people they accuse of being intolerant.
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    Re: Is Intolerance Wrong?

    Of course, intolerance is "wrong", but lets not crucify the intolerant. Something about it being taught for an entire lifetime, starting at age 0.0.... And then there is forgiveness.
    We should lead by example and we must accept a degree of human imperfection, even a high degree.

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    Re: Is Intolerance Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Of course, intolerance is "wrong", but lets not crucify the intolerant. Something about it being taught for an entire lifetime, starting at age 0.0.... And then there is forgiveness.
    We should lead by example and we must accept a degree of human imperfection, even a high degree.
    Really? I am intolerant of criminals. Is that wrong?
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    Re: Is Intolerance Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    This is a simple question:

    Is intolerance wrong?

    The question arises because people have a tendency to connote intolerance with something negative.
    Wrong is one of the most subjective concepts in existence. For some it's absolutely wrong and for some it's absolutely good. For most people, it's wrong sometimes and not others. I personally don't tend to think of intolerance in terms of morality, but in terms of acceptability. In my opinion, it is acceptable to be intolerant of demonstrably harmful people, actions or ideas. It is, however, unacceptable to be intolerant of people, actions or ideas that are not demonstrably harmful.

    For example, criminals are demonstrably harmful. Therefore, it is acceptable to be intolerant of them. Same sex marriage is not demonstrably harmful. Therefore, it is not acceptable to be intolerant of it.
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    Re: Is Intolerance Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Really? I am intolerant of criminals. Is that wrong?
    One could argue legitimately that it's wrong to be intolerant of any imperfect individual in light of our own imperfections. I don't accept that argument, but it's certainly not without a legitimate foundation.

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    Re: Is Intolerance Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by conservativeguy View Post
    I am intolerant of people that are intolerant of intolerant people
    Really? So you're intolerant of people that are intolerant of the intolerant Nazis, murderers, rapists, dictators, etc. of the world. You must be intolerant of a lot of people.

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    Re: Is Intolerance Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    One could argue legitimately that it's wrong to be intolerant of any imperfect individual in light of our own imperfections. I don't accept that argument, but it's certainly not without a legitimate foundation.
    forgive my speaking with authority, but Redress is right to be intolerant of criminals.

    I am intolerant of racists, anti-Semites, homophobes, Islamophobes, and other jerks.

    And I am right to be.

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    Re: Is Intolerance Wrong?

    Is it acceptable to be intolerant of laziness? ignorance? prejudice? Absolutely! Is it acceptable to be intolerant of another persons sexual preference? political ideology? habits? lifestyle? Again - yes. What is not acceptable in a decent society is acting on the judgement that drives your intolerance. As soon as you act in any way that harms the person or group who is the subject of your intolerance - you lose. And so does society. You see, the heart of the question has everything to do with the kind of society we are willing to accept, participate in, and mold - by example. Intolerance of crime is a separate, if related subject. Although not all laws are just, we live in a society with laws that are meant to protect us all. Crime, by definition, is a breach (an intolerance) on the part of the criminal, of the social order. Action taken against criminals is not intolerance.

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    Re: Is Intolerance Wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    forgive my speaking with authority, but Redress is right to be intolerant of criminals.

    I am intolerant of racists, anti-Semites, homophobes, Islamophobes, and other jerks.

    And I am right to be.
    I never said said Redress wasn't right to be intolerant of criminals and if you read the post I wrote above the one you quoted, you will see that I too am intolerant of criminals. However, the argument that it's wrong to be intolerant of criminals can be made and to say absolutely that it's "right to be intolerant of X" denies the subjective nature of morality.

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