View Poll Results: Term Limits

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  • Yes, term limits for Representatives

    32 48.48%
  • No, term limits for Representatives

    29 43.94%
  • Yes, term limits for Senators

    32 48.48%
  • No, term limits for Senators

    29 43.94%
  • Yes, term limits for Presidents

    47 71.21%
  • No, term limits for Presidents

    14 21.21%
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Thread: Do you support term limits

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    Re: Do you support term limits

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    I want to know, from anyone who supports term limits, why they think they are justified in overturning the will of the voters. Anyone?
    I already told you why. Because long-term incumbency breeds corruption.

    You want to overrule the voters because you don't like their choices.
    Yep.

    There's nothing more anti-democratic than that.
    Instead of foaming at the mouth, you COULD try explaining why you think unlimited democracy is inherently a good thing...but I'll not hold my breath.
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    Re: Do you support term limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    But in all honesty, one amendment I think would be good would be one to give the People a way to remove SCOTUS justices. Every election cycle...or every 4....no more than 6; the Justices come up for a confidence vote. If 85% of Americans vote no confidence, then that justice is removed. The new justice will be appointed as normal. This keeps removal of justices out of the hands of Legislature and Executive, for the founders were wise is isolating them from the Judiciary. But it does leave them in the hands of The People. A supermajority, necessarily must be a supermajority. 85% could be argued to be too low, that it should be like 88-90.
    I'm all for removing SCOTUS Justices. Lifetime appts are just insane. However, do you think it should be a confidence vote by the people or elected officials? I personally am unsure. I might just prefer to have them go through the confirmation process occasionally. I would also say they need some sort of final limit. Say no more than 20 years serving.
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    Re: Do you support term limits

    In a world where I trust everyone I'd be willing to accept no term limits for anyone... but I trust people in power very little. I think of places like Egypt, Syria, Lybia,... where their "leaders" were able to hold on to power for so long. They clearly have rigged the system to hold onto power. And given that there was no constitutional limit on how many times they could run, who's to stop them? I cringe at the thought of our country being run by one man or woman for more than 10 years years.

    At the very least there absolutely should be a term limit for the president.
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    Re: Do you support term limits

    I don't know because on one hand, we would have still had Clinton as a president for example, instead of Bush. On the other hand, BUsh would still have inevitably been president and by that time people would have gotten so damn tired of Democrats that Bush could get away with even more ****. I dunno. Then again FDR served 3 terms, and having the same guy in the front row for such an insane amount of world changing **** probably helped us, and the rest of the world out for the better.
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    Re: Do you support term limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    So you are in favor if removing term limits for presidents?
    You did not specifically ask me, but I will answer anyway. Yes, I do, but in the abstract. For practical reasons(it would require changing the constitution, which is near impossible to do these days), I do not actively support and push for the change.
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    Re: Do you support term limits

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    I don't know because on one hand, we would have still had Clinton as a president for example, instead of Bush. On the other hand, BUsh would still have inevitably been president and by that time people would have gotten so damn tired of Democrats that Bush could get away with even more ****. I dunno. Then again FDR served 3 terms, and having the same guy in the front row for such an insane amount of world changing **** probably helped us, and the rest of the world out for the better.
    Allowing unlimited presidential terms could potentially pave the way for a dictator to gain power. It's important to note that FDR wasn't eventually ousted by the voters...he died after being elected four times. Had he lived longer, could he have succumbed to the power and become a dictator? Possibly. He was already displaying some dictatorial tendencies during his presidency (e.g. trying to pack the Supreme Court, suspending habeus corpus, etc). I think his presidency lasted plenty long enough.

    That's not to say that he didn't do plenty of good stuff too...I just question whether some other president couldn't have done it just as easily. We Americans tend to turn some of our presidents into myths and think that no one could have possibly replaced them...but I think that nearly all of them were just a product of their time. Had the circumstances been different, we might remember average presidents as legends, and legendary presidents as average or worse.
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    Re: Do you support term limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Allowing unlimited presidential terms could potentially pave the way for a dictator to gain power. It's important to note that FDR wasn't eventually ousted by the voters...he died after being elected four times. Had he lived longer, could he have succumbed to the power and become a dictator? Possibly. He was already displaying some dictatorial tendencies during his presidency (e.g. trying to pack the Supreme Court, suspending habeus corpus, etc). I think his presidency lasted plenty long enough.

    That's not to say that he didn't do plenty of good stuff too...I just question whether some other president couldn't have done it just as easily. We Americans tend to turn some of our presidents into myths and think that no one could have possibly replaced them...but I think that nearly all of them were just a product of their time. Had the circumstances been different, we might remember average presidents as legends, and legendary presidents as average or worse.
    I am sure you realize the problem with slippery slope arguments....
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    Re: Do you support term limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I am sure you realize the problem with slippery slope arguments....
    It's not like we don't have plenty examples of this happening from other countries. In fact, one of the telltale signs that a president wants to become a dictator is when they try to avoid or change their term limits (e.g. Vladimir Putin, Hugo Chavez).
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    Re: Do you support term limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    It's not like we don't have plenty examples of this happening from other countries. In fact, one of the telltale signs that a president wants to become a dictator is when they try to avoid or change their term limits (e.g. Vladimir Putin, Hugo Chavez).
    Right but the difference between other countries and ours is thast our leaders age horribly because they got more **** to worry about. Dictators try to turn themselves into Gods. None of our presidents have ever tried to do that. That is a key difference.
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    Re: Do you support term limits

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    That's democracy. Deal with it.
    The United States is not a democracy. The United States is a Constitutional Republic.
    Yes, there is a big difference.
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