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    Is the System Broken or are People at Fault or Both?

    There is obviously a growing problem in today's politics. Whether it's a disconnect with candidates and elected officials or disenfranchised voters. The US government is IMO one of the most fair systems of governing ever devised in human history. Yet somehow we're seeing a growing corruption within. Is it from indefinite term limits, creating cronyism and career politicians? Is it from virtually unlimited candidate funding, allowing groups of concentrated wealth influence peddling? Is it the lobby's who through unimpeded access gain inside favoritism and no-bid contracts? Is it Party or Partisan Politics unable to compromise relying on ideology more than practical reasoning? I'm curious is it our system of governing that's flawed or are our people too self interested or a little of both? Let the debate begin.

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    Re: Is the System Broken or are People at Fault or Both?

    People make up the system, if it's broke it's because people screwed up.......the people running for office, the people running campaigns, the people voting for the same bag of clowns.
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    Re: Is the System Broken or are People at Fault or Both?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    There is obviously a growing problem in today's politics. Whether it's a disconnect with candidates and elected officials or disenfranchised voters. The US government is IMO one of the most fair systems of governing ever devised in human history. Yet somehow we're seeing a growing corruption within. Is it from indefinite term limits, creating cronyism and career politicians? Is it from virtually unlimited candidate funding, allowing groups of concentrated wealth influence peddling? Is it the lobby's who through unimpeded access gain inside favoritism and no-bid contracts? Is it Party or Partisan Politics unable to compromise relying on ideology more than practical reasoning? I'm curious is it our system of governing that's flawed or are our people too self interested or a little of both? Let the debate begin.
    Some systems within the larger system are broken, but that along with the general dysfunction is the people's fault.

    I'm a bland centrist though, so I'll say 'both'.
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    Re: Is the System Broken or are People at Fault or Both?

    Term limits, campaign reform, limiting lobbyists access and preventing the two Party's from using their power to cripple a third Party would go a long way to improving the system but will people support it?

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    Re: Is the System Broken or are People at Fault or Both?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    There is obviously a growing problem in today's politics. Whether it's a disconnect with candidates and elected officials or disenfranchised voters. The US government is IMO one of the most fair systems of governing ever devised in human history. Yet somehow we're seeing a growing corruption within. Is it from indefinite term limits, creating cronyism and career politicians? Is it from virtually unlimited candidate funding, allowing groups of concentrated wealth influence peddling? Is it the lobby's who through unimpeded access gain inside favoritism and no-bid contracts? Is it Party or Partisan Politics unable to compromise relying on ideology more than practical reasoning? I'm curious is it our system of governing that's flawed or are our people too self interested or a little of both? Let the debate begin.
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    Re: Is the System Broken or are People at Fault or Both?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Term limits
    We already have that. Every politician is limited to one term unless the voters decide otherwise.

    limiting lobbyists access
    Pointless, unconstitutional and hypocritical.
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    Re: Is the System Broken or are People at Fault or Both?

    We already have that. Every politician is limited to one term unless the voters decide otherwise.
    I would say "good point". Except you negate that with this previous comment.

    or voting for the same idiots.

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    Re: Is the System Broken or are People at Fault or Both?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    I would say "good point". Except you negate that with this previous comment.
    They aren't at odds. Both are calls for greater collective responsibility on the part of the American people.

    In essence, we have term limits (elections), and it is the job of the American people to use them.
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    Re: Is the System Broken or are People at Fault or Both?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    I would say "good point". Except you negate that with this previous comment.
    So you want to take away the right to vote because you think some voters are making the wrong choice?
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    Re: Is the System Broken or are People at Fault or Both?

    I think the problem with term limits stems from the ability to raise campaign funds. You end up with institutionalized politicians working the inside track for ego and personal gain instead of public servants who seek the greater good. If funding were limited I think you would have more choices and better ideas/solutions.

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