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    Re: Is the System Broken or are People at Fault or Both?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Exactly what part of the Constitution do you view as outdated?
    Should freedom of speech apply to corporations which can pay for television commercials which they hired child psychologists to design? Can 4 year olds deal with that? There was no television and Freudian psychology in 1776.

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    Re: Is the System Broken or are People at Fault or Both?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    And I never criticized the Constitution, nor have you showed where I have. Our form of governing has been accessorized with departmental abuses and faults thru each branch with the points I've mentioned. This current gov has grown far beyond in scope and intrusion than what the founding fathers ever envisioned. You simply draw false inferences to support your opinion about my post.
    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    It's not that our system is broken.

    Rather, it's outdated.

    We should not be using an 18th century system in a 21st century society.
    You both agreed with and "liked" samsmart's post, and I take that as being critical of the Constitution. Did I misunderstand your viewpoint?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Is the System Broken or are People at Fault or Both?

    Quote Originally Posted by psikeyhackr View Post
    Should freedom of speech apply to corporations which can pay for television commercials which they hired child psychologists to design? Can 4 year olds deal with that? There was no television and Freudian psychology in 1776.

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    What corporations are running political ads?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Is the System Broken or are People at Fault or Both?

    Let's be honest, the system is a little bit broken in my opinion, but in the end, the people are the ones that fuel that. I think that we simply don't have enough educated voters to capitalize on the fairly sound political system we have. If we did, there would certainly be more moderate and balanced politics. One thing I don't like about the political system is the barring of 3rd parties from debates. That seems to partially be limiting the peoples ability to vote effectively. All in all though, if we are to get out of this situation we need to educate our voters. Not just on conservative and liberal policy, but on bi-partisan ones as well.
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    Re: Is the System Broken or are People at Fault or Both?

    Quote Originally Posted by psikeyhackr View Post
    Should freedom of speech apply to corporations which can pay for television commercials which they hired child psychologists to design? There was no television and Freudian psychology in 1776.

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    Is this an example of an outdated constitution or a current disadvantage for your favorite party?

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    Re: Is the System Broken or are People at Fault or Both?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    You both agreed with and "liked" samsmart's post, and I take that as being critical of the Constitution. Did I misunderstand your viewpoint?

    You misstated what was said several times. Nobody ever mentioned the Constitution or the principles the country was founded on. There are problems with the way the US government is governing in our opinion. You don't agree, fine who cares? Most people think there are flaws in the current gov.
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    Re: Is the System Broken or are People at Fault or Both?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    You misstated what was said several times. Nobody ever mentioned the Constitution or the principles the country was founded on. There are problems with the way the US government is governing in our opinion. You don't agree, fine who cares? Most people think there are flaws in the current gov.
    I don't see where I misstated anything when asking about your agreement with this statement:

    "We should not be using an 18th century system in a 21st century society."

    By agreeing, you are certainly criticizing our Constitutional form of government.
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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    Re: Is the System Broken or are People at Fault or Both?

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    Let's be honest, the system is a little bit broken in my opinion, but in the end, the people are the ones that fuel that. I think that we simply don't have enough educated voters to capitalize on the fairly sound political system we have. If we did, there would certainly be more moderate and balanced politics. One thing I don't like about the political system is the barring of 3rd parties from debates. That seems to partially be limiting the peoples ability to vote effectively. All in all though, if we are to get out of this situation we need to educate our voters. Not just on conservative and liberal policy, but on bi-partisan ones as well.
    I don't know that I would necessarily call it broken.

    I think it's more that we allowed a scenario where people who pay nothing into the system have begun voting themselves other people's money and believe a minimum income tax would fix that.

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    Re: Is the System Broken or are People at Fault or Both?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Andy View Post
    I don't know that I would necessarily call it broken.

    I think it's more that we allowed a scenario where people who pay nothing into the system have begun voting themselves other people's money and believe a minimum income tax would fix that.
    I only believe the broken system is seen when it comes to the debates. Obviously debating was never outlined as law or such, but i still think it is necessary for all voters to see all candidates, not just a Republican and a Democrat.
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    Re: Is the System Broken or are People at Fault or Both?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Andy View Post
    Is this an example of an outdated constitution or a current disadvantage for your favorite party?
    I would say, an outdated constitution. Speech may have applied to newspapers back then but how many 4 year olds were reading them? Television is different and has not been pervasive for even 70 years. But it is a kind of uncontrolled experiment on society.

    Now what will tablet computers do? Will this provide more parent control?

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