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Thread: Was Blagojevich's sentence too harsh?

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    Re: Was Blagojevich's sentence too harsh?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Medium security most definitely involves locking people in cages and exposing them to violent criminals. The US routinely applies this punishment to nonviolent offenders, and it's disgusting.
    It seems that anything less than pampering and pandering to convicted corrupt officials disgusts you.

    At any rate, Judge Sheldon said that he was going to recommend light-security (dormitory facility) for Blago to the US Bureau of Prisons.

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    Re: Was Blagojevich's sentence too harsh?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    It seems that anything less than pampering and pandering to convicted corrupt officials disgusts you.
    And it seems that anything less than subjecting them to sexual slavery and daily assrapes for the rest of their lives is not enough for you. Isn't hyperbole fun?

    I'm sorry that you have been conditioned to believe that some human beings deserve to be raped and locked in cages...but the truth is that no one deserves either (although sometimes the prison bars are unavoidable if a person is truly a threat to society). There is no reason that prison needs to be the default punishment for any and all crimes.
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    Re: Was Blagojevich's sentence too harsh?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Isn't hyperbole fun?
    Truth be told, you've become tedious.

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    Re: Was Blagojevich's sentence too harsh?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    A light-security prison is better than the alternative, but if it involves any prison bars, sharpshooters, and/or sodomy then it's barbaric.



    Prison should be reserved for those who do pose a physical danger, who need to be isolated for the protection of everyone else. Erosion of the public trust can be punished in ways other than cages. House arrest, ankle bracelet, public shaming, heavy fines, community service, barring him from ever holding office again, etc. Similar to the ways we could/should punish most other crimes. The fact that locking people in cages is the default punishment for any wrongdoing whatsoever is unconscionable.
    Written better than my efforts....this makes so much sense, so much, IMO, common sense..
    The community service is one of my favorites.....Why should Jimmy Carter be the only well known house builder ??

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    Re: Was Blagojevich's sentence too harsh?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Fox wouldn't have been able to handle him. He talks too much.
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    Re: Was Blagojevich's sentence too harsh?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    It seems that anything less than pampering and pandering to convicted corrupt officials disgusts you.

    At any rate, Judge Sheldon said that he was going to recommend light-security (dormitory facility) for Blago to the US Bureau of Prisons.
    Vengefulness of the American people disgusts me.
    Blago was simply more corrupt in a corrupt society....and he got cuaght..
    I'd make him do 20 years of community service...picking up litter from slobs, as a start..

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    Re: Was Blagojevich's sentence too harsh?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Medium security most definitely involves locking people in cages and exposing them to violent criminals. The US routinely applies this punishment to nonviolent offenders, and it's disgusting.

    Low security prisons are not quite that bad, but they still involve separating the inmate from friends and family, for essentially no reason. If the person is not a threat to the people with whom he interacts, why is prison necessary at all? What's wrong with house arrest, fines, public shaming, community service, and restrictions on where/if he can work?
    These things involve thinking and reasoning, with a clean mind....Only a new-born baby or a saint has a clean mind and thinking/reasoning are not within every mans ability....

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    Re: Was Blagojevich's sentence too harsh?

    Violence is not the only thing that threatens society. If blago was given nothing mroe than community service he would be getting away with it and he would turn around and do more to hurt society.

    Look at his douchebag father-in-law. The guy is still crooked as **** and his son-in-law just got locked up for corruption. Cronyism is not something to underestimate.

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    Re: Was Blagojevich's sentence too harsh?

    "Give a man a gun, and he can rob a bank. Give a man a bank, and he can rob the world."

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    Re: Was Blagojevich's sentence too harsh?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Violence is not the only thing that threatens society.
    Violence is (normally) the only thing that threatens society in such a way where it's necessary to isolate the perpetrator from the rest of society. Blago is a real piece of ****, but his mere presence in society does not harm anyone. Would anyone be afraid to run into him?

    If blago was given nothing mroe than community service he would be getting away with it
    By this same reasoning we could summarily execute everyone convicted of traffic violations, to make sure that they aren't getting away with anything. But there is no need to abuse human rights like this, specifically when alternate forms of punishment exist. Locking someone in a cage should be a last resort, when they need to be physically isolated for the protection of everyone else.

    and he would turn around and do more to hurt society.
    This is speculation and it's difficult to see how this would be possible with adequate supervision. On a more theoretical level, I have seen no evidence that prison reduces recidivism more than alternate forms of punishment (particularly for these kinds of crimes). But there is plenty of evidence that American prisons and the accompanying abuse that occurs within them are bad for both the convict and for society as a whole.
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