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Thread: Was Blagojevich's sentence too harsh?

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    Re: Was Blagojevich's sentence too harsh?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    The jury found Blago guilty on numerous criminal counts and the judge agreed. Blago will probably wind up in a light-security prison, hardly a cage. As the judge noted, one need not pose a physical danger to society in order to to inflict harm on that society. The judge valued these crimes not on the $1.5 million price tag for the Senate seat, but for the incalculable damage and erosion inflicted on the public trust.
    You're right. He'll probably be sent to some chicken **** work farm and I doubt he'd make it more than 3-4 years without getting out for health reasons. However, I think what Kandahar is trying to get at is that the US justice system and our views of it are severely lacking when we give more time for white collar crimes than violent offenses. Personally, I think the sentence is way too harsh for the crime. A 1.5 million dollar fine and 2-3 years tops would have been more than enough. 14 years hanging out with even the pettiest of criminals seems like they're trying to set an example with the guy.
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    Re: Was Blagojevich's sentence too harsh?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You're right. He'll probably be sent to some chicken **** work farm and I doubt he'd make it more than 3-4 years without getting out for health reasons. However, I think what Kandahar is trying to get at is that the US justice system and our views of it are severely lacking when we give more time for white collar crimes than violent offenses. Personally, I think the sentence is way too harsh for the crime. A 1.5 million dollar fine and 2-3 years tops would have been more than enough. 14 years hanging out with even the pettiest of criminals seems like they're trying to set an example with the guy.
    federal sentences are served completely with perhaps a day off for each month of good behavior. a 14 year sentence is going to be at least 13+ years. The only way he gets a reduction is if on appeal the sentence is overturned or a president commutes or pardons him

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    Re: Was Blagojevich's sentence too harsh?

    Well, I'll be damned !
    And in a most pleasant way. I am in the majority.
    "Punishment" should be effective and inexpensive, throwing him to rot in jail accomplishes little, and is the old way of doing things.
    However , this character will bear watching, probably for as long as he lives...This ,I think, will still be cheaper than incarceration, the conservative method of punishment..

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    Re: Was Blagojevich's sentence too harsh?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    that appears to speak more to the too light punishment assigned to child molesters
    So very true.
    Society's children should be much better protected than society's so-called adults.
    We do need reform here.

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    Re: Was Blagojevich's sentence too harsh?

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoclown View Post
    I have zero sympathy for corrupt public officials. I can't vote in this poll because I think the sentence was too lenient. Blago deserved the max.
    And, exactly what good comes from a harsh prison term ?
    Yes ! He was corrupt, and those who were corrupted, are they that much better ??

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    Re: Was Blagojevich's sentence too harsh?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    And, exactly what good comes from a harsh prison term ?
    Yes ! He was corrupt, and those who were corrupted, are they that much better ??
    It's a lesson to those who would cheapen the democratic system. Blago is just Nixon with better hair.


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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Was Blagojevich's sentence too harsh?

    i can't wait to see if he changes names to "protect the innocent" in his memoirs, which will be carefully written. i can't help but think he is taking a bullet for the team, including obama. it's a dirty political culture in illinois. i hope he does interviews. i think he was railroaded. i don't think we know 10% of the whole.

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    Re: Was Blagojevich's sentence too harsh?

    Quote Originally Posted by washamericom View Post
    i can't wait to see if he changes names to "protect the innocent" in his memoirs, which will be carefully written. i can't help but think he is taking a bullet for the team, including obama. it's a dirty political culture in illinois. i hope he does interviews. i think he was railroaded. i don't think we know 10% of the whole.
    So you hate Obama so much you're going to defend Blagojevich now? You realize that he's a Democrat, right?



    Politics is dirty everywhere. It's a dirty business. If you want to get ahead in politics, you end up associating with some not so wonderful people by virtue of them being in your party. That's true no matter what side of the spectrum you're on.


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    Re: Was Blagojevich's sentence too harsh?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    So you hate Obama so much you're going to defend Blagojevich now? You realize that he's a Democrat, right?



    Politics is dirty everywhere. It's a dirty business. If you want to get ahead in politics, you end up associating with some not so wonderful people by virtue of them being in your party. That's true no matter what side of the spectrum you're on.
    you people are too quick to accuse people of hate, which one time was a pretty grave charge. there is a distinction between hate and disagreement of policy or performance, or search for truth. hate and love have become trite. as steve martin said "how can you love a floor wax". when you say hate, it's a pretty strong term. i really don't think i hate obama. i'm not sure i hate anybody. do you ??

    if i ran a poll asking what american city was known for a style of corrupt politcs, how would that play. i was born and raised in chicago in the 60/70's. it's hard to describe. i will agree with you that politics can be dirty everywhere, but four illinois governors will have done time, since i was born, including one republican. i do kind of like blago, i might even have crossed paths with him in high school. it's a fabulous story. i don't think he should serve 14 years.
    Last edited by washamericom; 12-10-11 at 03:54 PM.

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    Re: Was Blagojevich's sentence too harsh?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    The jury found Blago guilty on numerous criminal counts and the judge agreed. Blago will probably wind up in a light-security prison, hardly a cage.
    A light-security prison is better than the alternative, but if it involves any prison bars, sharpshooters, and/or sodomy then it's barbaric.

    As the judge noted, one need not pose a physical danger to society in order to to inflict harm on that society. The judge valued these crimes not on the $1.5 million price tag for the Senate seat, but for the incalculable damage and erosion inflicted on the public trust.
    Prison should be reserved for those who do pose a physical danger, who need to be isolated for the protection of everyone else. Erosion of the public trust can be punished in ways other than cages. House arrest, ankle bracelet, public shaming, heavy fines, community service, barring him from ever holding office again, etc. Similar to the ways we could/should punish most other crimes. The fact that locking people in cages is the default punishment for any wrongdoing whatsoever is unconscionable.
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