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    Re: Are you a Literal Constitutionalist?

    No, I'm not. The constitution should be interpreted in whatever way is most beneficial to society.
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    Re: Are you a Literal Constitutionalist?

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    No, I'm not. The constitution should be interpreted in whatever way is most beneficial to society.
    And who gets to do the interpreting? Instead of changing it legally as it was set down in the Constitution. I am sorry but our elected representatives have shown they can't be trusted to do the will of the people. Instead they go by the will of whoever donates the most money to get them reelected.

    It can legally be changed, no need to reinterpret it's original intent.
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    Re: Are you a Literal Constitutionalist?

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    No, I'm not. The constitution should be interpreted in whatever way is most beneficial to society.
    Meaning none of it means anything.

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    Re: Are you a Literal Constitutionalist?

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    No, I'm not. The constitution should be interpreted in whatever way is most beneficial to society.
    If this was the case, then why would we have a written constitution in the first place? Britain has no written constitution. They just go by whatever statutes are on the books.
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    Re: Are you a Literal Constitutionalist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Wait, you are claiming that 3 people(probably), in expressing their opinions, spoke for every one? How about when they(probably Hamilton) opposed the bill of rights?
    Its best to look at Madison for the constitution as he will know what his words mean. Hamilton is secondary.

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    Re: Are you a Literal Constitutionalist?

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    No, I'm not. The constitution should be interpreted in whatever way is most beneficial to society.
    That's not interpreting though.
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    Re: Are you a Literal Constitutionalist?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I think if someone is gonna go full-literal, the Bible is the way to go. It's FAR more intricate and interesting. Sheer number of pages demands its precedence for absolute madness. Don't short-change yourself, go for the big deal.
    The more time I spend in the Bible, the more I realize how dangerous it is to take literally. It is intricate and interesting. As my faith and understanding of God grows, the more I see things within the Bible that I did not see before and the more I passages read completely differently than they did before. Not to mention, I am not a seven-day, new earth creationist.

    The only written things I take literally are my Pilot's Operating Handbook and signs on the golf course that say "Danger - Rattlesnakes"
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    Re: Are you a Literal Constitutionalist?

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    The more time I spend in the Bible, the more I realize how dangerous it is to take literally. It is intricate and interesting. As my faith and understanding of God grows, the more I see things within the Bible that I did not see before and the more I passages read completely differently than they did before. Not to mention, I am not a seven-day, new earth creationist.

    The only written things I take literally are my Pilot's Operating Handbook and signs on the golf course that say "Danger - Rattlesnakes"
    Cute, but the Constitution is not comparable to the bible.

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    Re: Are you a Literal Constitutionalist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    No, I'm not. The constitution should be interpreted in whatever way is most beneficial to society.
    Meaning none of it means anything.
    Exactly. Why bother even having a Constitution? Part of its purpose is that it is deemed to be what is best for society, even if society doesn't know it.

    In theory, anyway.

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    Re: Are you a Literal Constitutionalist?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Exactly. Why bother even having a Constitution? Part of its purpose is that it is deemed to be what is best for society, even if society doesn't know it.

    In theory, anyway.
    In theory your idea even falls apart. Only if you ignore the general will of people to demand superiority or control of a system, any system, do you believe your theory. People will always demand what will give them an advantage over others, they will always push their wills in government regardless of what others think, and they will always want power above all else. In your system even in theory it would fall apart.

    Government is the collective organization of the individual right to lawful defense of our rights and our liberty. It is not there to violate our liberty, to give people want they desire, or anything even close to what you have demanded from them.

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