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    Re: Are you a Literal Constitutionalist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    The problem is, there aren't enough of us who care to make a difference. The Tea Party is a minuscule minority. We need a majority of Americans to care and that's just not going to happen.
    We may be a minority, but we are a group that should be willing to do anything and everything to make sure this issue gets corrected.

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    Re: Are you a Literal Constitutionalist?

    The Constitution is very vague in many areas. I almost hate to say this, because I generally favor more precise wording, but in the case of the Constitution, the vagueness is what has worked for it and why it has lasted as long as it has.

    There are areas that I wish were clarified and narrowed a bit, but overall I think some level of vagueness works well.

    ETA: The biggest problem is not the Constitution itself, but the courts. There have been many instances where the Constitution was pretty clear, and the courts chose to ignore it anyway.
    Last edited by radcen; 12-07-11 at 03:17 PM.

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    Re: Are you a Literal Constitutionalist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    We may be a minority, but we are a group that should be willing to do anything and everything to make sure this issue gets corrected.
    That's great, got any magic wands to wave? Unless we get a majority of people voting to fix the issue, it won't get fixed.
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    Re: Are you a Literal Constitutionalist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    That's great, got any magic wands to wave? Unless we get a majority of people voting to fix the issue, it won't get fixed.
    Yes I do have some magic wands to wave. Quite a few, as do many of the other who agree with me. They come in a number of different flavors.....

    9mm, .45ACP, .40S&W, 5.56mm NATO, 7.62mm NATO, etc....

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    Re: Are you a Literal Constitutionalist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Yes I do have some magic wands to wave. Quite a few, as do many of the other who agree with me. They come in a number of different flavors.....

    9mm, .45ACP, .40S&W, 5.56mm NATO, 7.62mm NATO, etc....
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    Re: Are you a Literal Constitutionalist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    You seem to exist in a profound state of spiritual desolation.
    No. I just view the world from a very different place than most people do. I long ago realized that all the pretty, happy, joyful stuff in the spiritual world is crap and nothing more. It's the bright bunting placed on the coffin to make people forget there's a dead body inside it. The world is a cruel, nasty, vile place where only the Strong survive. Always has been. We just put up this bunting called "civilization" to try and hide that from our eyes on a daily basis.

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    Re: Are you a Literal Constitutionalist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Yes I do have some magic wands to wave. Quite a few, as do many of the other who agree with me. They come in a number of different flavors.....

    9mm, .45ACP, .40S&W, 5.56mm NATO, 7.62mm NATO, etc....
    Yeah, and let me know when you, armed with whatever you want, makes the citizens of this country vote any differently.
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    Re: Are you a Literal Constitutionalist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    No. I just view the world from a very different place than most people do. I long ago realized that all the pretty, happy, joyful stuff in the spiritual world is crap and nothing more. It's the bright bunting placed on the coffin to make people forget there's a dead body inside it. The world is a cruel, nasty, vile place where only the Strong survive. Always has been. We just put up this bunting called "civilization" to try and hide that from our eyes on a daily basis.
    That disposition is usually termed 'spiritual desolation'.

    Considering history (God, destiny, chance, take your pick) gave it us to enjoy a much better life than the overwhelming majority of the human race that came before us, the least we can do is honor the gift by returning a bit of the humanism that spurred and maintained it, from before the Revolution.

    Unless you are under the continual threat of being dipped in tar, crucified, and set on fire, in addition to starving, having worms, and continual exposure to the elements, I don't think you have much to complain about. Life in a modern democracy is a little too generous for chomping at the bit for war and revolution to seem like anything besides narcissism on steroids.
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    Re: Are you a Literal Constitutionalist?

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    No. First of all, I am not sure it is even possible to be a literal Constitutionalist - as anything written requires interpretation, and almost any text can be interpreted differently. Secondly, when interpreting writing, intent has to be taken into consideration, and anyone who is a strict Constitutionalist fails on that front.
    BS....you pulled that one out of your arse. Strict Constitutionalists constantly look to the Federalists
    Papers and other documents to make certain they clearly understand the intent of the Founding Fathers. Liberals ignore those documents and claim the Constitution is living document that must be interpreted based on what feels good today and not what the FF wanted. You could not be more wrong with your failed attempt to bash conservative judges.
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    Re: Are you a Literal Constitutionalist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Ok, so which am I, Aderleth? I am a strong proponent of not only a literal reading of the document, but a removal of most of the amendments after the Bill of Rights.
    Delusional, obviously. I'm pretty sure I've made it clear before that I think you're completely out of your entire goddamn mind. This is yet another example of that.

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