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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Then why does every Occupation website link to NYCGA?
    cause they is too lazy to make their own.

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    That are in solidarity in regards to their protests against the financial institutions and the government.

    Which doesn't mean they are in solidarity in regards to the change needed for financial institutions and the government.
    1) The OWS is not a unified movement - rather, it is a movement of a wide variety of political beliefs that is protesting our current financial system and how it interacts with government
    Now you have moved the point to a solution?

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Now you have moved the point to a solution?
    The various factions that make up the OWS movement have various possible solutions.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    This is rather ironic twist of assertions. The protesters themselves claim to be unified as the 99% and assert that they are a focused movement. Yet you guys claim that they are not. DOesnt your position just play into the Rights hand? Everywhere else the debate is the opposite.

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    This is rather ironic twist of assertions. The protesters themselves claim to be unified as the 99% and assert that they are a focused movement.....
    that's all well & good, but they don't claim to have an agenda nor demands.

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    This is rather ironic twist of assertions. The protesters themselves claim to be unified as the 99% and assert that they are a focused movement. Yet you guys claim that they are not. DOesnt your position just play into the Rights hand? Everywhere else the debate is the opposite.
    Are you seriously suggesting that a group that claims to contain members of 99% of the population thinks consistently about anything? Does 99% of the population think consistently about any remotely serious issue? No? Okay then.

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    This is rather ironic twist of assertions. The protesters themselves claim to be unified as the 99% and assert that they are a focused movement. Yet you guys claim that they are not. DOesnt your position just play into the Rights hand? Everywhere else the debate is the opposite.
    Or maybe you are just unable to understand nuance.

    The 99% are protesting the fact that 1% owns the most wealth in our nation and they are against the undue influence that the financial institutions exert over our government institutions.

    So who makes up these OWS protesters? A number of different type of people.

    * College students, who are deeply in debt trying to get an education to help them get a job but requires them to get so deep in loans that their salary or wages can't realistically pay back.

    * The elderly, who rely on government assistance to live after they've become too old to earn money in the work force.

    * Socialists, who see the growing gap in wealth as damaging to our country and seek to use the government to implement policies to lessen that gap in wealth so all Americans can enjoy a better standard of living.

    * Anarchists, who government institutions as immoral authorities over people that inherently become tools of economic elites and therefore prefer a society without any government institutions that can intrude on the individual liberties and freedoms of the people.

    So on one hand we have socialists who want to use government authority to protect their economic interests and on the other hand we have anarchists who want to prohibit government authority to infringe on anyone's economic interests.

    So if that's the case then how could they possibly come to a single solution?
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    This is rather ironic twist of assertions. The protesters themselves claim to be unified as the 99% and assert that they are a focused movement. Yet you guys claim that they are not. DOesnt your position just play into the Rights hand? Everywhere else the debate is the opposite.
    Exactly. If every person in OWS is just involved for their own ideology, or whatever, and there is no unified message at all, why should anyone really give a **** what their "demands" or "grievances" are?

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    Are you seriously suggesting that a group that claims to contain members of 99% of the population thinks consistently about anything? Does 99% of the population think consistently about any remotely serious issue? No? Okay then.
    That's another thing, I resent the fleabaggers saying they speak for me, they don't and I am not in the top 1%.

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    That's another thing, I resent the fleabaggers saying they speak for me, they don't and I am not in the top 1%.
    Neither do the politicians you probably vote for, but that's neither here nor there. Do you have anything substantive to add about my last response to you?

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