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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    OWS is not a unified movement? Well then why do they stand in solidarity with each other and are working on demands? Wouldnt demands require a certain amount of unity to come to a consensus to release demands?.....
    there must be at least 20 OWS groups in the USA alone. what evidence do you have that they are coordinating on an agenda and demands?

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    OWS is not a unified movement? Well then why do they stand in solidarity with each other and are working on demands? Wouldnt demands require a certain amount of unity to come to a consensus to release demands? Speaking of consensus, each of the occupations has an General assembly. Each General assembly have whats they call spokes-councils (Spokes Council Proposal | NYC General Assembly # Occupy Wall Street). The point that I am making is that OWS is interlinked with all of the occupation and they work together under the principles of solidarity. ANd to remind you solidarity means : unity (as of a group or class) that produces or is based on community of interests, objectives, and standard.

    So you are mistaken when you assert that the occupy movement is not unified in their actions and goals.



    On your second point that OWS is not against Capitalism but only against unregulated Capitalism, since you were mistaken on your first point please provide something form the actual websites of the main occupations that states what you are claiming.
    The Democratic Party and the Republican Party work together to pass legislation and serve in the executive branches at all levels of government.

    The Democratic Party and the Republican Party are hardly unified together.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    there must be at least 20 OWS groups in the USA alone. what evidence do you have that they are coordinating on an agenda and demands?
    Even more, the very fact that there hasn't been any unified release of demands makes it pretty freaking obvious that there is no consensus as to what they should be.

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    If they were already "unified," there wouldn't be a need for debating "What our demands are," now would there?
    Did you read this? Principles of Solidarity | NYC General Assembly # Occupy Wall Street You do understand what solidarity means right?

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Did you read this? Principles of Solidarity | NYC General Assembly # Occupy Wall Street You do understand what solidarity means right?

    the OWS group in NYC is merely one of maybe 20+ groups in the USA.

    OWS NYC does NOT speak for the OWS movement.

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    The Democratic Party and the Republican Party work together to pass legislation and serve in the executive branches at all levels of government.

    The Democratic Party and the Republican Party are hardly unified together.
    Are those tow parties working in solidarity as OWS asserts that everyone in the movement is?

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Did you read this? Principles of Solidarity | NYC General Assembly # Occupy Wall Street You do understand what solidarity means right?
    Yeah...that's just the dudes in New York.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    the OWS group in NYC is merely one of maybe 20+ groups in the USA.

    OWS NYC does NOT speak for the OWS movement.
    The NYCGA are the fathers of the movement shouldnt their opinions matter I mean there would not be an OWS if it were not for them.

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Are those tow parties working in solidarity as OWS asserts that everyone in the movement is?
    That are in solidarity in regards to their protests against the financial institutions and the government.

    Which doesn't mean they are in solidarity in regards to the change needed for financial institutions and the government.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Yeah...that's just the dudes in New York.
    Then why does every Occupation website link to NYCGA?

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