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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Cat, I hate to be so obtuse but what you furnished is a bill that delineates tax breaks the DO NOT get. My request was for tax breaks the DO GET for 'offshoring'. Based on the first few lines this bill 'amended by adding at the end the following new section'. Your use infers that there is verbage in the tax law that would allow such tax breaks then this added section denys such breaks. You may very well be correct which reinforces the need for reform in the tax laws. I mean if there are sections that allow the tax breaks why not just eliminate these sections rather than add more sections to override others.

    Did you read the CFR link I provided? There is some very compelling arguments on both sides of the subject by various sources.

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Cat, I hate to be so obtuse but what you furnished is a bill that delineates tax breaks the DO NOT get. My request was for tax breaks the DO GET for 'offshoring'. Based on the first few lines this bill 'amended by adding at the end the following new section'. Your use infers that there is verbage in the tax law that would allow such tax breaks then this added section denys such breaks. You may very well be correct which reinforces the need for reform in the tax laws. I mean if there are sections that allow the tax breaks why not just eliminate these sections rather than add more sections to override others.

    Did you read the CFR link I provided? There is some very compelling arguments on both sides of the subject by various sources.
    Dickie, the Senate bill delineates the tax breaks that would be eliminated, in addition to incentives to keep jobs and investment in the US. Yes, I did read your link. It discusses the tax breaks for outsourcing proposed to be eliminated in Senate Bill. Everything I've read makes me think this is necessary to help stem the outsourcing tide.
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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Did that idiot lay out the outline of OWS. Did he conceive the idea of OWS. Did he buy a domain that is the internet hub for OWS? Has he done interviews where he admits to starting OWS with a vision of how it will play out?

    Damn a photo of a strawman argument nice touch. Try as you might but Lasn is doing more than screaming like an idiot holding up ripped paper.



    And this was just for irony

    And just because you are clueless read this: but wait it gets better:

    Oh and even better here are your Anarchists that started OWS they were all Adbusters about 50 of them:

    Oh and then there is this part where Adbusters grapples with how to manipulate the 99%:

    So what were you saying? That Lasn was like that guy in the hat you posted? Not the "driving force"?
    Good post, FreedomFromAll.

    You've provided some new information as well as reiterating stuff that has already been brought to light in this thread. Anyone who is able to add 2+2 can see that Lasn and his buddies are the driving force behind OWS.

    The problem for our two progressive friends here is that all they can bring themselves to accept is "hashtags and posters".
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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Now you are just using excuses like conspiracy theorists... We comprehended it fine. You didnt. You believed it was something it was not.
    You sound like a conspiracy theorist. Using all these excuses.


    Naa that wasnt me 200 posts ago...

    Im not lazy. You are the one being lazy. You do not know how debating works. When people make an accusation (you are the one making accusations.), especially the one you are claiming him being a radical, the leader, and manipulating the people of the movement, people will ask for a source to the claim, and proof. You then say "go out and find it yourself". See that is now how debating works. Usually the one who makes the claim has sourrces for those claims. People who do not have sources or cant provide them usually are the ones who just make **** up.. (You)
    Are you sure you want to say something like that highlighted text???

    Was this your post?

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    And here is my response.

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    That was all well over 200 posts ago. Also, in that part of this thread, FreedomForAll and Aderleth provided other links and information. But you continue to insist that no evidence has been provided.

    Dude, I think YOUR concept of debate is faulty...not mine. I've given you evidence that you ignore and all you can do is stubbornly deny that I have provided any links. And, out of all the links provided over and over, the only thing you see is "hashtags and posters".

    There's an old saying that applies here: "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink."

    But, at least the horse doesn't whine about being thirsty.
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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    An interesting perspective on the OWS as part of an awakening of values for the human race, as explained exceptionally well in this documentary.


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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
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    This is not the Conspiracy theories forum...

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    This is not the Conspiracy theories forum...
    Its a forum about the OWS, that together with the other revolutions around the world, could spark the social awakening discussed in the documentary.
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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Did that idiot lay out the outline of OWS. Did he conceive the idea of OWS. Did he buy a domain that is the internet hub for OWS? Has he done interviews where he admits to starting OWS with a vision of how it will play out?
    Adbusters didn't do those first two things either. And buying a domain name and making bogus claims proves nothing except that they know there are wingnuts stupid enough to beleive them.

    Damn a photo of a strawman argument nice touch. Try as you might but Lasn is doing more than screaming like an idiot holding up ripped paper.
    So after asking who Lasn was, now you "suddenly" know who he is?

    Busted much?

    And this was just for irony

    And just because you are clueless read this: but wait it gets better:

    Oh and even better here are your Anarchists that started OWS they were all Adbusters about 50 of them:

    Oh and then there is this part where Adbusters grapples with how to manipulate the 99%:

    So what were you saying? That Lasn was like that guy in the hat you posted? Not the "driving force"?
    Umm, I guess you don't realize that all those "plans" were the exact same things protesters have been doing since the 60's:

    "asymmetrical warfare strategies", "marked escalation of surprise, playful, precision disruptions", "bank occupations", "edgy theatrics", "signs, meetings, camps, marches", "erected a small stage and began giving amplified speeches", “horizontal” organizing methods, "general assemblies and participants make decisions by consensus and give continuous feedback through hand gestures" were, AS YOUR OWN QUOTE STATES

    left-wing traditions stretching back to the civil-rights movement and earlier
    And you think that means that Lasn invented them?
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