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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Corporations are not people, so I can see no problem if the government ordered corporations to focus their business in America.
    So, again, how is this in compliance with the Constitution?

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I find this to be untrue. The left focuses on the poor as well.

    You mean to tell me republicans are interested in the well-being of the poor class? What a laugh.
    Neither' I said neither, pay attention. The Left only uses the poor as an excuse they do not actually help them.

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    So, again, how is this in compliance with the Constitution?
    I am sure a way can be found. I am in favor of the constitution being changed to amend this unfortunate problem.

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Neither' I said neither, pay attention. The Left only uses the poor as an excuse they do not actually help them.
    I disagree with your use of "neither", because I believe the left does care, so you pay attention.

    And I suppose spending programs that help the poor buy food isn't a form of helping?

    Who are you to say the left "only uses the poor as an excuse"?

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Neither' I said neither, pay attention. The Left only uses the poor as an excuse they do not actually help them.
    preventing & limiting cuts to Medicaid helps the poor a great deal.

    fighting to preserve S-CHIP and Headstart, helps the poor.

    your comments seem to be meaningless.

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Can you show me where in the Constitution it says we must provide tax breaks for outsourcing American jobs???
    Of course it doesn't say that but I am not the one taking the position that the Government has powers they don't have.

    Please, try again.

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I find this to be untrue. The left focuses on the poor as well.

    You mean to tell me republicans are interested in the well-being of the poor class? What a laugh.
    In order to laugh, you would have to discount other opinions and models as to how the poor are best helped. "Tax the rich, feed the poor, til there are no poor no more" may be catchy, poetic and easily digested but possibly impractical in the long run. A knowledge and sense of history and economic theory and application might help you better decide what is laughable.

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I am sure a way can be found. I am in favor of the constitution being changed to amend this unfortunate problem.
    Just to clarify, you support to government control of production? Is this not the textbook definition of socialism? And also ratify this with a constitutional amendment? Pretty radical IMHO.

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Just to clarify, you support to government control of production? Is this not the textbook definition of socialism? And also ratify this with a constitutional amendment? Pretty radical IMHO.
    "Radical" doesn't exist. It's just another belief, another drop of water, in the ocean.

    Our society already embraces mulitple aspects of socialism.

    If it requires the government to fix this problem, then so be it. What, do you support how businesses send jobs overseas, or how they suppress the poor?

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I disagree with your use of "neither", because I believe the left does care, so you pay attention.

    And I suppose spending programs that help the poor buy food isn't a form of helping?

    Who are you to say the left "only uses the poor as an excuse"?
    Well I get to say it since it is my opinion. Which is just as fair as you disagreeing with my opinion. Which is fine, but it really does not matter to me if you disagree with the words that I used, since I was the one writing them not you.

    I also have my own opinions on what constitutes help. Either you help someone or you dont. Creating an sustained welfare state is not help IMO. creating a situation where poor people can remove themselves from poverty is helping them. Which is where the logical emphases should be in helping poor people, not throwing them crumbs and patting yourself on the back thinking that you helped the poor people.

    Welfare has its place as an emergency humanitarian effort to help your fellow neighbor. Welfare is not something any rational person wants to stay stagnant in, despite what the Right will tell us. Receiving a pittance is not what lazy people call comfort. In fact being on welfare for able bodied people is just as much work as having a job, at least it is here in New Mexico since in order to recieve welfare you have to look for a job have a job or volunteer. And if you do not find a job within a certain time you must volunteer or loose welfare benefits.

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