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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    It's not my fault you were careless in wording your question. It's your fault. I answered the question you asked. If you think I'm going to answer question after question until you get it right (if ever) while you ignore my questions, you're being foolish. Answer my first question, and I'll answer your second:

    What portion of the 1% died while working construction?
    It was quite clear what I was talking about, since I talked about investment.

    You are just going to keep "misunderstanding" what I write, so it is a complete waste of time debating with you.

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Camlon View Post
    It was quite clear what I was talking about, since I talked about investment.

    You are just going to keep "misunderstanding" what I write, so it is a complete waste of time debating with you.
    No, you asked about risk. Misrepresenting your own questions is not going to dig you out of the hole.

    Here's the question you asked:

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    Did the workers take the risk?
    I answered your question. Now you answer mine:
    What portion of the 1% died while working construction?
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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    No, you asked about risk. Misrepresenting your own questions is not going to dig you out of the hole.

    Here's the question you asked:

    I answered your question. Now you answer mine:
    What portion of the 1% died while working construction?
    Read what is below the question, and you will realize i was talking about investment. I said.

    Yes, the workers built the factories.
    Did the workers take the risk?

    You know that most investment projects fail?
    It should be quite clear what I am talking about, even for you. Since you misunderstood my statements on purpose, then I have no interest debating this any further with you. You are just going to keep "misunderstanding".

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Camlon View Post
    Read what is below the question, and you will realize i was talking about investment. I said.
    No, you asked two questions. I answered the first. The 2nd question does not ask about who is making an investment. Misrepresenting your own words is not honest.

    Now answer my first question, and I'll answer your 2nd
    What portion of the 1% died while working construction?



    It should be quite clear what I am talking about, even for you. Since you misunderstood my statements on purpose, then I have no interest debating this any further with you. You are just going to keep "misunderstanding".
    I accept your surrender
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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I have heard that the OWS is not against capitalism at all, though I have seen many OWS groups and signs that indicate they are indeed against capitalism. What is the truth? Are they against capitalism or not? I wuld reason that during their earlier days they came to protest against businesses and corporations, which are all a part of capitalism. What do you think about this? I see OWS members on YouTube chanting against the crimes of capitalism while holding their signs that reflect their belief.
    they sure hate razors, soap and hygiene though

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Now answer my first question, and I'll answer your 2nd
    What portion of the 1% died while working construction?
    I have a question for you. How many of the bottom 1% died while working construction?

    Hint: it is the same as the 1%.

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Camlon View Post
    I have a question for you. How many of the bottom 1% died while working construction?

    Hint: it is the same as the 1%.
    Gee, I thought you had no interest in continuing. Like your question, that comment you made earlier was poorly thought out.

    And now you're trying to hide that carelessness by once again, failing to answer my question

    What portion of the 1% died while working construction?
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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    Obviously yes, but not necessarily the plan you think it is, which is specifically why I pointed out the distinction between strategy and tactics. In fact, they are very likely not interested in the plan you're asserting (destabalizing the economy), given the extraordinary amount of evidence to the contrary (like, for instance, the attitudes and statements of the vast majority of OWS protesters that I've ever read or heard).
    So we have different opinions on the matter. If OWS was more transparent perhaps I would have a different opinion.



    Which might support your position if Adbusters had any real influence with OWS, which they very emphatically do not.
    Adbusters created a premise for OWS, which is anti-Capitalism. 3 seconds at adbusters site should be telling enough on that subject.



    They are not "against" our economic system (not the way you mean, at least), they take issue with flaws in our economic and political systems. And if you actually talk to them, you'll find that with the exception of the die hard anarchists and socialists (most of whom are part of groups that pre-date OWS by years or decades, but have joined up with OWS nonetheless), none of them support destabalizing the economy. In fact, their primary interest is to create a stronger economy by pointing out and fixing the flaws in our economic and political system that perpetuate stagnant wages, a weakened middle class, and increasingly ridiculous profits for those elements of the financial sector most responsible for causing the disastrous recession we're all currently living through.
    How can you be so sure about OWS when they represent themselves as not an organization but cells of individuals working for their own beliefs and by their own methods? Are you saying that OWS is unified in their goals as a whole? An who exactly are "they"?

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    OWS protesters are more likely to have a job than Tea Tantrum protesters



    Get a What? A Job? 70% of Occupy Wall Streeters are Employed, Compared to 56% of Tea Partiers
    Who cares? ANd what does it have to do with me?

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Gee, I thought you had no interest in continuing. Like your question, that comment you made earlier was poorly thought out.

    And now you're trying to hide that carelessness by once again, failing to answer my question

    What portion of the 1% died while working construction?
    If I was interested, I would have written more.

    And now, I have responded to your question. It is the same as for the bottom 1%. Both groups have 0% because neither work in construction.

    I have held my end of the bargain, but you are never going to hold your end of the bargain.

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