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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    What? Not at all. I am stating that the only people I've witnessed involved in "tea bagging" have been drunken college guys at frat parties. I'm not insulting any group, simply indicating my confusion.
    Your disingenuity is fooling no one.



    Again, perhaps you could be more specific as I do not understanding exactly how people who enjoy placing ones testicles on anothers mouth are dependent on government handouts, but perhaps you can better explain. You stated medicare...perhaps there are routine accidental teeth marks? Hard for me to say, I'm not familiar with it. Perhaps if you could clarify and be more specific we could speak and I could happily give you my thought and opinions.

    Again, your disingenuity is fooling no one.

    As to the OWS protesters being employed? Indeed, a majority of them are. Looking at the figure you keep posting, as I said, it appears that there are more "employed" people in the blue group then the red group. Similarly there are more people in the category of "unemployed" in the blue group compared to the red group. There is little to no people in the "retired" category in the blue group and about 33% in the red group. So it seem, as a percentage of their total numbers, the Blue group has both more currently employed and more currently "unemployed" statused people.
    Keep pretending that retired people are not unemployed. Your disingenuity is fooling no one.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    Right. So, in a nutshell, your position is "I refuse to pay attention to what OWS is doing or saying, but I'm convinced that they're doing and saying things in furtherance of the goals of an organization that I don't like."

    You may want to work on your reasoning skills there, buddy.
    I think you should work on your comprehension skills...buddy.

    I said nothing of the kind.
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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    What? Not at all. I am stating that the only people I've witnessed involved in "tea bagging" have been drunken college guys at frat parties. I'm not insulting any group, simply indicating my confusion.
    You witnessed tag-bagging. That's messed up. Why? I have an idea about your confusion.
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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Your disingenuity is fooling no one.

    Again, your disingenuity is fooling no one.
    What? I'm just asking you to describe in an adult and clear way what you're talking about. Nothing disingenuous at all with that. I'd be absolutely happy to answer if you could do such a thing. Its rather curious that you're seemingly incapable of doing such.

    Keep pretending that retired people are not unemployed. Your disingenuity is fooling no one.
    Why would I keep doing something that I'm not doing? Can someone retire from their job and then go to the unemployment office and apply for unemployment checks? No, because retirement is a different status then being "unemployed".

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    You witnessed tag-bagging. That's messed up. Why? I have an idea about your confusion.
    Around 2:00 am when the parties winding down and you have a few people passed out, you can unfortunately walk into somewhat public areas of a house to witness some pretty horrible sites I'm afraid to say. To the life of me I've not been able to figure out why choosing to place your own privates onto another man whose not consious is somehow supposed to be degrading to them and not yourself and why its viewed as funny....then again, drunk people are rarely rational so whatcha gonna do.

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    What? I'm just asking you to describe in an adult and clear way what you're talking about. Nothing disingenuous at all with that. I'd be absolutely happy to answer if you could do such a thing. Its rather curious that you're seemingly incapable of doing such.



    Why would I keep doing something that I'm not doing? Can someone retire from their job and then go to the unemployment office and apply for unemployment checks? No, because retirement is a different status then being "unemployed".
    Keep pretending that retired people are not unemployed. Your disingenuity is fooling no one.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    Obviously yes, but not necessarily the plan you think it is, which is specifically why I pointed out the distinction between strategy and tactics. In fact, they are very likely not interested in the plan you're asserting (destabalizing the economy), given the extraordinary amount of evidence to the contrary (like, for instance, the attitudes and statements of the vast majority of OWS protesters that I've ever read or heard).



    Which might support your position if Adbusters had any real influence with OWS, which they very emphatically do not.



    They are not "against" our economic system (not the way you mean, at least), they take issue with flaws in our economic and political systems. And if you actually talk to them, you'll find that with the exception of the die hard anarchists and socialists (most of whom are part of groups that pre-date OWS by years or decades, but have joined up with OWS nonetheless), none of them support destabalizing the economy. In fact, their primary interest is to create a stronger economy by pointing out and fixing the flaws in our economic and political system that perpetuate stagnant wages, a weakened middle class, and increasingly ridiculous profits for those elements of the financial sector most responsible for causing the disastrous recession we're all currently living through.
    Do you have any information...with links, please...that can substantiate the highlighted statement?
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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    you can unfortunately walk into somewhat public areas of a house to witness some pretty horrible sites
    Ok, that's true. I was Sig Ep for a year.

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I think you should work on your comprehension skills...buddy.

    I said nothing of the kind.
    Except that you did. This is you in post 141:

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    That's why I called the people in the parks useful idiots. I don't give a wit about what they say or do.
    And by studiously ignoring their statements and actions, you've somehow managed to convince yourself, according to post 190, that...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    They do nothing useful...nothing that matters...nothing really original. All of their activities are directed by the few behind-the-scenes people at Adbusters.
    So, in a nutshell, you don't care about their actions or statements, but somehow know both that their actions and statements are useless, and also simultaneously "directed" by an organization that by all accounts has had very little to do with OWS almost since it's inception.

    Tell you what, why don't you make some effort to compare the actions and statements of OWS with what you believe to be the goals of Adbusters and see how much they overlap. You'll find, if you do that, that they don't overlap much at all.

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Keep pretending that retired people are not unemployed. Your disingenuity is fooling no one.
    Unemployed is being without a paid job but still available to work. Retired means having left ones job and casing to be available to work. Also, in regards to the different status's, I again state...

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Why would I keep doing something that I'm not doing? Can someone retire from their job and then go to the unemployment office and apply for unemployment checks? No, because retirement is a different status then being "unemployed".

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