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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Some absolutely are against capitalism. Some aren't. My take would be that the movement as a whole isn't "anti-capitalism" but rather pro-regulation. I think its rather neutral about capitalism...IE its not really supporting it, its not really against it, its not its focus. Its more about regulation and wealth redistribution which is not incapatable with Capitalism in and of itself (if it was, then we aren't capitalistic in this country currently). There's likely individuals in there that have anti-capitalistic views, just like there are tea parties with heavily social views, but that doesn't mean that the movement itself as a whole represents that view.

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Most of them have no idea what they are protesting, they are just protesting to protest. They missed the sixties and think this is how things were done.

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I have heard that the OWS is not against capitalism at all, though I have seen many OWS groups and signs that indicate they are indeed against capitalism. What is the truth? Are they against capitalism or not? I wuld reason that during their earlier days they came to protest against businesses and corporations, which are all a part of capitalism. What do you think about this? I see OWS members on YouTube chanting against the crimes of capitalism while holding their signs that reflect their belief.
    Parts of it surely are, not everyone within it though. OWS isn't a solidified ideology and philosophy. It's a broad tent, order of magnitude display.
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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Does the OWS movement have an official spokesman ?
    Do they have any manifesto ?
    At least, Adolf Hitler was kind enough to write a book....had this only been read by those in power...
    These are things I do not know.
    I do know that we have many problems, and that these have been festering for a long time.
    I ,for one, think that a man should work for a living - today we do have some who actually disagree - showing up, then doing nothing of value is good enough for them....

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by coolwalker View Post
    Most of them have no idea what they are protesting, they are just protesting to protest. They missed the sixties and think this is how things were done.
    Actually I think a lot of partisan hacks have no idea what they are protesting. They don't want to know either. They perceive the movement as leftist and thus launch into attacks without even trying to figure out what the complaint is or if there's any validity to it.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    While you can't generalize, I think a lot are pro-socialism, they want ti be given what others have earned. So yes, for many among the OWS.
    Rather than making this statement, why not find out exactly what their agenda is ????
    Good luck on that one...
    Has any WSO ever been intelligently and fairly interviewed ???
    Or is this (as I suspect) an impossibility with todays media.

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Actually I think a lot of partisan hacks have no idea what they are protesting. They don't want to know either. They perceive the movement as leftist and thus launch into attacks without even trying to figure out what the complaint is or if there's any validity to it.
    It would help if the OWS made their goals unified and known. It is primarily their own fault since at the beginning they did not make their ideas known.

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I have heard that the OWS is not against capitalism at all, though I have seen many OWS groups and signs that indicate they are indeed against capitalism. What is the truth? Are they against capitalism or not?....
    there are tens of thousands of OWS supporters around this country, maybe more.

    around 30% of the USA supports them, which is around 99 million people.

    OWS has no official stances on politics. They are against mass-inequality, excessive corporate greed, vast disparities in wealth between the Middle-class & wealthy, and against the influence money has on politics.

    Now, are some OWSers against Capitalism outright and seek to to impose Socialism? sure.

    are there there also OWSers who simply want to reform, evolve, and amend our current system to be more fair & more equal? yep.

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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I have heard that the OWS is not against capitalism at all, though I have seen many OWS groups and signs that indicate they are indeed against capitalism. What is the truth? Are they against capitalism or not? I wuld reason that during their earlier days they came to protest against businesses and corporations, which are all a part of capitalism. What do you think about this? I see OWS members on YouTube chanting against the crimes of capitalism while holding their signs that reflect their belief.
    If you are referring to the useful idiots in the parks...who knows and who cares?

    If you are referring to those who started this whole shebang...of course they are.
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    Re: Is the OWS against Capitalism?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    It would help if the OWS made their goals unified and known. It is primarily their own fault since at the beginning they did not make their ideas known.
    I think their ideals were quite clear from the start. One just had to pay attention, not sit around calling them vermin or dirty hippies or spoiled kids or whatever else people wanted to throw out there so that they wouldn't have to think about it too hard.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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